[comp.sys.amiga] hard drive info - help

mermelstein%tel.inrs.cdn@relay.ubc.ca (lois mermelstein) (02/10/89)

I need the help of the Collective Net Mind on hard drives, mainly because
I suspect the local dealer isn't quite sure what he's talking about.

My two main choices seem to be between the 2090A with either a 45M Rodime
22-ms drive or a Miniscribe 40M, 25-ms drive, or else the GVP 40M 11-ms
access time hard card.  I'm leaning towards the GVP, but some of my info.
seems to be contradictory.  I hope someone out there knows what's really
cooking....

The guy at the dealer's said the Rodime and the Miniscribe are ST506 drives,
and that SCSI doesn't work particularly well on the 2090A.  This seems kind
of strange to me -- anyone know different?

No one seems to be sure if the GVP card does DMA -- does it?  What sort of
performance penalty exists if it doesn't?  Will this matter if I bankrupt
myself now and have to wait years more before getting something like 
the 68020 card?

Do prices of about $1000 (for the 2090A + drive) and $1300 (for the GVP)
sound about right (these are Canadian prices)?  How easy is these GVP to
sound about right (these are Canadian prices)?  How easy is these GVP to
install if I resort to mail order? 

And, oh yes, has anyone had any bad experiences with these that they'd
care to share?  I know about the problem some Seagate's have spinning up -
are there other similar traps like these out there?

If enough people e-mail, I'll summarize to the net.

Thanks much for the help,
Lois Mermelstein
mermelstein@tel.inrs.cdn
(the only path I know)

kevin@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Clague) (02/10/89)

In article <8422@louie.udel.EDU> mermelstein%tel.inrs.cdn@relay.ubc.ca (lois mermelstein) writes:
>I need the help of the Collective Net Mind on hard drives, mainly because
>I suspect the local dealer isn't quite sure what he's talking about.
>
>My two main choices seem to be between the 2090A with either a 45M Rodime
>22-ms drive or a Miniscribe 40M, 25-ms drive, or else the GVP 40M 11-ms
>access time hard card.  I'm leaning towards the GVP, but some of my info.
>seems to be contradictory.  I hope someone out there knows what's really
>cooking....

A number of us here at Amdahl bought 2090A's and Quantum Prodrive 80S.
The Quantum is a 80M, 19ms, 3 1/2 HH SCSI drive with a 64K lookahead
cache. I'd guess you can get a setup like that for $1100 (drives available
available from Hard Drives International (800-234-DISK) for $775).

>
>The guy at the dealer's said the Rodime and the Miniscribe are ST506 drives,
>and that SCSI doesn't work particularly well on the 2090A.  This seems kind
>of strange to me -- anyone know different?

We've all gotten quite respectable performance from this setup (greater
than 500K bytes/seconds using diskperf.)  This is quite respectable.

>No one seems to be sure if the GVP card does DMA -- does it?  What sort of
>performance penalty exists if it doesn't?  Will this matter if I bankrupt
>myself now and have to wait years more before getting something like 
>the 68020 card?

GVP does not DMA.  This could cause you serious performance penalties
if you buy a Commodore 2620 (68020 board.)

>Do prices of about $1000 (for the 2090A + drive) and $1300 (for the GVP)
>sound about right (these are Canadian prices)?  How easy is these GVP to
>install if I resort to mail order? 

From some experiences we've had here, the GVP seems MUCH easier to
install than the 2090A.  The 2090A document is WRONG in many places
and contradictory in many others.  But is works just fine once you get
it set up.

>And, oh yes, has anyone had any bad experiences with these that they'd
>care to share?  I know about the problem some Seagate's have spinning up -
>are there other similar traps like these out there?

I still have an occasional hang on reboot (or power up.)  It accesses the
first floppy drive and hangs with the floppy drive light on (but
I'll live with that instead of floppies any day ;-)

>Thanks much for the help,
>Lois Mermelstein

Kevin
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