joostv@philce.UUCP (Joost Vroonhoven) (02/23/89)
Dear CATS, DOGS and other netters,
I've had this "problem" for some time now. I can live with it but
I would like to know the WHY of this ....
My Configuration is A2000B, A2058 with 2M, A2088 with 20M Hardcard,
68020/68881 daugtherboard in 68000 socket.
I run KS 1.2 V33.180 and WB 1.3 V 34.20.
Startup-sequence like :
SetPatch /* WB 1.3 */
SetCPU /* By Dave Haynie V1.3 */
decigel /* Patch Privilege Violation vector */
FastMemFirst /* WB 1.3 */
BindDrivers /* WB 1.3 */
....
When booting my A2000 it executes BindDrivers (PC card drive light lights),
so it seems BindDrivers is finished,
and then a "Software Error, Task Held".
Examining with ROMWack shows a PC at 0x40000 with A6 0xc00038
task c05058 (the Initial CLI) and USP-4 pointing to a JSR -d2(a6).
(if a6 was SysBase that would be FreeMem).
This occurs frequently on a cold boot and sometimes on a warm boot.
I have no viruses.
Reproduction is rather difficult since it (appearently) depends
on the phase of the moon.
Even more interesting: the error occurred also with WB 1.2 V 33.56 when
I didn't had the A2058!
Using ROMWack the PC was 20000 , so it seems BindDrivers jumps
to (the address of the last installed (or PC) card) << 4 !!!!!!!!!!
During the last week I read postings of three other people who had similar
problems with their A2500, so maybe BindDrivers doesn't always know
what to do when running on a 68020 ??
Here are the summarized messages of the others, since they may be helpful :
From: COIL%IGL2@eng.ohio-state.edu (Stacy D. Coil)
*I have a friend who has a 2500. He has been having problems with it a cold
*start. Here is what it does. First it gives a software error, then it freezes
*up and gives a guru message. Then by clicking the left mouse button, it boots.
Stacy (MisTer C)
HP28s Coil-S@Eng.Eng.Ohio-State.edu
From: 8642420@wwu.edu (eric cosky)
* Sometimes when I cold boot my 2500 it will guru #00000004; when I
*ctl-amiga-amiga it it boots fine. It seems to guru right around the time
*it binddrivers my 2090... Is this a known bug?
-eric cosky
InterNet: 8642420@wwu.edu
ATT: 206-733-1331
From: kevin@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Clague)
*I have the same problem with my 2000 and my 2090A.
*I have:
*B2000 with autoboot ROMs
*2090A with Quantum Prodrive 80S SCSI drive
*Commodore 8 meg board with 2 meg installed.
*AmigaDOS 1.3
*Since I leave my machine on most of the time, it is not too huge a
*problem, but it would be nice to know what's happeneing.
Kevin
UUCP: kevin@uts.amdahl.com
or: {sun,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,seismo,oliveb}!amdahl!kevin
Who of the Amiga Wizards can tell us more on this ??
(PS. If I get interesting E-Mail I'll summarize)
Joost.
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joostv@philce.UUCP @ Philips Consumer Electronics APL-4andy@cbmvax.UUCP (Andy Finkel) (02/28/89)
In article <310@philce.UUCP> joostv@philce.UUCP (Joost Vroonhoven) writes: >Dear CATS, DOGS and other netters, > >I've had this "problem" for some time now. I can live with it but >I would like to know the WHY of this .... > >My Configuration is A2000B, A2058 with 2M, A2088 with 20M Hardcard, >68020/68881 daugtherboard in 68000 socket. >I run KS 1.2 V33.180 and WB 1.3 V 34.20. >When booting my A2000 it executes BindDrivers (PC card drive light lights), >so it seems BindDrivers is finished, >and then a "Software Error, Task Held". >Examining with ROMWack shows a PC at 0x40000 with A6 0xc00038 That's what happens with the current Bridge card software if the card fails to bind. (possibly loose in the slot, giving intermittent connection, the PC side fails to reset, the janus library startup code not starting up for whatever reason) It has been fixed in the 2.0 version of janus library (available somehow rsn) >During the last week I read postings of three other people who had similar >problems with their A2500, so maybe BindDrivers doesn't always know >what to do when running on a 68020 ?? > >Here are the summarized messages of the others, since they may be helpful : No, their problems seem very different. I don't know why they are having problems...I can tell what your problem is, though. Hmmm...you might want to make sure the contacts on your bridge card are clean, as well. andy -- andy finkel {uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!andy Commodore-Amiga, Inc. "Possibly this is a new usage of the word 'compatible' with which I was previously unfamiliar" Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (03/01/89)
in article <310@philce.UUCP>, joostv@philce.UUCP (Joost Vroonhoven) says: > Keywords: A2000 BindDrivers 68020 > When booting my A2000 it executes BindDrivers (PC card drive light lights), > so it seems BindDrivers is finished, > and then a "Software Error, Task Held". Hmmmm... The only thing that comes to mind sounds very much like a problem I had a while back. Every so often, for some reason unexplainable for some time, my A2620-equipped system would guru on startup. It was a tough one to track down, because it wasn't frequent enough to just start removing hardware or software influences unless I wanted to be without them for an extended period of time. I eventually tracked it down to the Bridge Card software. Since I've been beta testing the Janus V2.0 software, this mysterious guru as completely disappeared. Before changing the Janus software, I had pretty much tracked it down to something occuring at or around Binddrivers (I was doing two Binddrivers passes, binding in my hard disk first, followed later by the Bridge Card). > During the last week I read postings of three other people who had similar > problems with their A2500, so maybe BindDrivers doesn't always know > what to do when running on a 68020 ?? I figured it was a synchronization problem with the Bridge Card; running the software 4x faster made a bad situation come up more often. As it was already fixed by Janus V2.0, I didn't worry much about it after that. The Binddrivers program can cause any number of device drivers to get loaded ("bound") for their corresponding PICs. So you have more hardware and software interactions going on here than perhaps any other single time. > Who of the Amiga Wizards can tell us more on this ?? I haven't seen anything like this happen except for an A2088 Bridge Card with the original Janus library. I'd consider that a known problem that's already been addressed. Any other interactions warrent some investigation. > (PS. If I get interesting E-Mail I'll summarize) > Joost. -- Dave Haynie "The 32 Bit Guy" Commodore-Amiga "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: D-DAVE H BIX: hazy Amiga -- It's not just a job, it's an obsession