shaulp@pnet02.cts.com (Shaul Peleg) (02/18/89)
I just read somewhere that there will be a new version of the A&W RKMs.
Caan someone please confirm this for the truth?
Thanks very much (oh how I wish) -=SP=-
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INET: shaulp@pnet02.cts.comstan@hpcvca.HP.COM (Stan Gibbs) (02/24/89)
I went to my local book store to order the set of RKM's the other day and found that the "Books In Print" catalog lists them as under revision with no publication date or price set yet. I put my order in anyway, in the hope that they will be published before V1.4 comes out 8-). Stan. stan@hp-pcd --- hplabs!hp-pcd!stan
urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP (Rostyk Lewyckyj) (02/27/89)
In article <5660033@hpcvca.HP.COM>, stan@hpcvca.HP.COM (Stan Gibbs) writes: > the "Books In Print" catalog lists them as under revision > I put my order in anyway, > in the hope that they will be published before V1.4 comes out 8-). > But why would you want RKM manuals that describe (if up to date) V1.3 if they will soon be obsoleted by V1.4 which is supposed to be a big revision? Is it perhaps that you think V1.4 is so far in the future that RKMs describing V1.3 (to be published RSN :-)) will nevertheless be current sufficiently long to be usefull? Is this attitude optimistic? realistic? or pessimistic? :-)
ksp@anuck.UUCP (p.s.kasten) (02/28/89)
To kill the RSN feeling about the new RKM's: Last Saturday, I saw one of the three new RKM's in my AMIGA dealer's shop. For $35, it contains the 1.3 includes, and printer driver examples. I don't remember what else it had. It was about the same size as the Libraries and Devices RKM we are so familiar with. phil kasten at&t bell labs !att!mvuxi!ksp
stan@hpcvca.HP.COM (Stan Gibbs) (03/01/89)
> urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes: >> I put my order in anyway, >> in the hope that they will be published before V1.4 comes out 8-). > But why would you want RKM manuals that describe (if up to date) V1.3 > if they will soon be obsoleted by V1.4 which is supposed to be a big > revision? Is it perhaps that you think V1.4 is so far in the future > that RKMs describing V1.3 (to be published RSN :-)) will nevertheless > be current sufficiently long to be usefull? > Is this attitude optimistic? realistic? or pessimistic? :-) Well, I don't know for sure. Depends on how you look at it 8-). In the computer world, few released things are not immediately obsolete. One has to start somewhere gathering information. Today is just about as good as tomorrow. I doubt that everything in the kernel will be obsolete when 1.4 is released (did someone say upwardly compatible?), and, most likely, those things that do change will be well documented. On a scale of o to p, I'll give it an r. Stan Gibbs hplabs!hp-pcd!stan
elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) (03/06/89)
in article <5660034@hpcvca.HP.COM>, stan@hpcvca.HP.COM (Stan Gibbs) says: >> urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes: >> But why would you want RKM manuals that describe (if up to date) V1.3 >> if they will soon be obsoleted by V1.4 which is supposed to be a big >> revision? Is it perhaps that you think V1.4 is so far in the future Because I'm currently using the v1.1 RKMs ;-). Waiting yet another year for 1.4 to come out doesn't seem... adequate. >> that RKMs describing V1.3 (to be published RSN :-)) will nevertheless >> be current sufficiently long to be usefull? My 1.1 RKMs, along with the 1.2 and 1.3 autodocs, are still current enough to be useful. Why should the 1.3 RKMs be any different? > In the computer world, few released things are not immediately obsolete. All too true. There's many who'll tell you right now that the Amiga itself is obsolete (I don't agree with that, but I DO agree that the video display is obsolete and doesn't have the necessary "hooks" for easy expansion). But what are you going to do? Wait for Sun workstations to come down to $2k? Wait until you can get a Crayette on your desk? What do you do in the meantime? The answer is simple. You buy the 1.3 RKMs, you use them a year or two, then you buy the 1.4 RKMs. -- | // Eric Lee Green P.O. Box 92191, Lafayette, LA 70509 | | // ..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!elg (318)989-9849 | | \X/ >> In Hell you need 4Mb to Multitask << |
bryce@cbmvax.UUCP (Bryce Nesbitt) (03/06/89)
In article <7435@> elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) writes: |in article <5660034@hpcvca.HP.COM>, stan@hpcvca.HP.COM (Stan Gibbs) says: || in article <> urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes: || || But why would you want RKM manuals that describe (if up to date) V1.3 || if they will soon be obsoleted by V1.4... The old RKM's described V1.1 of the system software. These new V1.3 RKMs will be a large improvement. | In the computer world, few released things are not immediately | obsolete. At this time the new manual is %100 up-to-date. Every scrap of current information was included in the manual. As V1.4 Kickstart and Workbench are developed, they will initially be described in the form of "change notes". Purchasers of the V1.3 manual set will not be loosing their investment. The V1.3 manuals are significantly better organized than any previous edition. Many new charts and lists have been included to appeal to the advanced developer. The introductions have been reviewed for clarity by novice programmers. And, unlike previous editions, every code example was re-tested from the final typeset source. -- |\_/| . ACK!, NAK!, EOT!, SOH! {O o} . Bryce Nesbitt (") BIX: bnesbitt U USENET: cbmvax!bryce@uunet.uu.NET -or- rutgers!cbmvax!bryce This article may be redistributed or republished without restriction.
ksp@anuck.UUCP (p.s.kasten) (03/07/89)
In article <6143@cbmvax.UUCP>, bryce@cbmvax.UUCP (Bryce Nesbitt) writes: > .................., every code > example was re-tested from the final typeset source. > The Manx compiling instructions indicate to use the default compiler flags and to link with c.lib, but most of the examples don't specify LONGs when they should. Instead, they just use default size ints. phil kasten at&t bell labs att!mvuxi!ksp
dzenc@hermes.ai.mit.edu (Daniel Zenchelsky) (03/13/89)
After purchasing Robert Peck's book "Programmers Guide to the Amiga" over the weekend, I decidede that I needed an Rom Kernel Manual. My Questions: What exactly is the RKM? Where can I buy it? How much will it cost me? Thanks -Dan P.S. It's a great book. +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | ______ | | || |o| Daniel Zenchelsky -- dzenc@hermes.ai.mit.edu | | ||___| | | | | _ | "Yes, but every time I try to see things your | | \_[]_|_| way, I get a headache." | | | +-----------------------------------------------------------+