dan@ivucsb.UUCP (Dan Howell) (03/18/89)
I just did something the other day which I had to gloat over. I had a disk which had one (count 'em, 1) directory on it. I decided this was silly, especially since that directory contained 1 other directory and 1 file. The directory was a huge tree-structured directory. I just said cd dir1 rename file / rename dir2 / cd / delete dir1 And voila, no more useless top level directory. Try that on an IBM! (and by the way, I also noticed that you can do this on BSD Unix, but not on Sys V! Why would AT&T do this? Are they trying to be IBM compatible? :-) -- -- Dan Howell <ivucsb!dan@anise.acc.com> -- <...!(pyramid|ucbvax)!ucsbcsl!nessus!ivucsb!dan> -- "What? TWO buttons? I don't know if I can handle that!" -- a Mac user
brant@uf.msc.umn.edu (Gary Brant) (03/19/89)
In article <614@ivucsb.UUCP> ivucsb!dan@anise.acc.com (Dan Howell) writes: > >cd dir1 >rename file / >rename dir2 / >cd / >delete dir1 > >And voila, no more useless top level directory. Try that on an IBM! > >(and by the way, I also noticed that you can do this on BSD Unix, but not >on Sys V! Why would AT&T do this? Are they trying to be IBM compatible? :-) Sys V requires you be Super User to mv directories. Dunno why, it's a pain. >-- Dan Howell <ivucsb!dan@anise.acc.com> >-- <...!(pyramid|ucbvax)!ucsbcsl!nessus!ivucsb!dan> -Gary Brant
monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine) (03/21/89)
>In article <614@ivucsb.UUCP> ivucsb!dan@anise.acc.com (Dan Howell) writes: >> >>cd dir1 >>rename file / >>rename dir2 / >>cd / >>delete dir1 >> >>And voila, no more useless top level directory. Try that on an IBM! >> >>(and by the way, I also noticed that you can do this on BSD Unix, but not >>on Sys V! Why would AT&T do this? Are they trying to be IBM compatible? :-) > >Sys V requires you be Super User to mv directories. Dunno why, it's >a pain. Thats funny, I just suspended news for a moment on my system V Unix system and created a directory, moved up to its parent and then did a mv and it moved it with no problem. True you can't move a directory unless you have the correct permission, but in a multi-user system you don't want just anyone moving around the common directories so they are only accessable by the superuser, not a pain but a protection. Unix is a bit obscure at times but most of the ragging it seems to take is from people who THINK they can't do something so it becomes gospel. In short, as I have been told before, RTFM and get your facts straight before you rag on ANY system, be it Amiga, Unix, IBM, Atari, etc. There is not a perfect system out there (yet). Flame me via e-mail and don't tie up the net. Monty " All side effects are effects." " We can never do merely one thing." " --First Law of Ecology"
brant@uf.msc.umn.edu (Gary Brant) (03/21/89)
In article <363@sagpd1.UUCP> monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine) writes: > >>In article <614@ivucsb.UUCP> ivucsb!dan@anise.acc.com (Dan Howell) writes: >>> [example of moving directory on Amiga deleted] >>>And voila, no more useless top level directory. Try that on an IBM! >>> >>>(and by the way, I also noticed that you can do this on BSD Unix, but not >>>on Sys V! Why would AT&T do this? Are they trying to be IBM compatible? :-) >> >>Sys V requires you be Super User to mv directories. Dunno why, it's >>a pain. > >Thats funny, I just suspended news for a moment on my system V Unix system >and created a directory, moved up to its parent and then did a mv and it moved >it with no problem. True you can't move a directory unless you have the >correct permission, but in a multi-user system you don't want just anyone You probably just used mv to change its name; this is allowed. What you can't do is to *move* the directory into a different directory without superuser permissions. In order to achieve the same funcionality, I have to create a new directory at the location where I wanted to move this one and then move all the files to the new directory, finally I need to delete the now empty directory. Note that no such contortions are needed on BSD systems; I need only type: mv dir1 dir2 & the system will cause dir1 to become a subdirectory of dir2. On Sys V, I just get the error message, mv: directory rename only - even though I own both directories & have chmod 777 on both of them. I repeat, this is a pain. >moving around the common directories so they are only accessable by the >superuser, not a pain but a protection. [irrelevant stuff deleted to make pnews happy] It should still let me move my own directories around. > Flame me via e-mail and don't tie up the net. > >Monty > >" All side effects are effects." >" We can never do merely one thing." >" --First Law of Ecology" -Gary Brant ARPA: brant@uf.msc.umn.edu
higgin@cbmvax.UUCP (Paul Higginbottom MKT) (03/22/89)
In article <11719@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU> brant@uf.msc.umn.edu (Gary Brant) and others write:
$ [stuff about moving directories under unix]
Can you move this discussion to a unix group please?
Paul.sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (03/23/89)
<11719@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU> > >>In article <614@ivucsb.UUCP> ivucsb!dan@anise.acc.com (Dan Howell) writes: > >>> > > [example of moving directory on Amiga deleted] > > >>>And voila, no more useless top level directory. Try that on an IBM! > >>> > >>>(and by the way, I also noticed that you can do this on BSD Unix, but not > >>>on Sys V! Why would AT&T do this? Are they trying to be IBM compatible? :-) > >> > >>Sys V requires you be Super User to mv directories. Dunno why, it's > >>a pain. Try this little shell script I wrote on SYS V: # mvdir echo "moving $1 to $2" find $1 -print | cpio -pd $2 # remove the comment on the next line if you want to delete the orig dir. # rm -r $1 # end It will move an entire directory including sub-dirs to the destination directory. Invoke like: mvdir flibit /usr/test will move the dir flibit to /usr/test/flibit Not so hard is it? -- John Sparks | {rutgers|uunet}!ukma!corpane!sparks | D.I.S.K. 24hrs 1200bps ______________| sparks@corpane.UUCP | 502/968-5401 thru -5406 History books which contain no lies are extremely dull.