jac@ssibbs.UUCP (James Crotinger) (03/15/89)
One of my hangups with the icon oriented method of launching applications
is that some files are suitably processed by more than on application.
For instance, if a .c file has an icon, should clicking on this icon launch
an editor, or a C compiler? This is a topic that has been discussed
many times, but I've never heard any really good solution. How about this
one: add the ability to include a list of tools in the tooltypes field.
If the user double clicks the icon, the first tool gets launched. However
if the user double clicks while holding down the middle mouse button
(or the shift key, for people without a middle mouse button) a pop-up
menu would appear with a list of tools. Then the user would just double
click on the appropriate menu item to launch that tool. Any comments?
And while I'm wishing, add one more vote for iconification. I really
hope that this one makes it into 1.4! My Workbench just gets altogether
too cluttered.
Also, as implied by the first paragraph, I'd like to see pop-up
menus and Intuition support of a middle mouse button, with a suitable
alternative for two button Amigans.
Jim
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Jim Crotinger
crotinger%mit.mfenet@nmfecc.arpadan@ivucsb.UUCP (Dan Howell) (03/26/89)
In article <110@ssibbs.UUCP> jac@ssibbs.UUCP (James Crotinger) writes: | Also, as implied by the first paragraph, I'd like to see pop-up |menus and Intuition support of a middle mouse button, with a suitable |alternative for two button Amigans. On Xerox workstations, the function of a middle button is emulated on a two button mouse by pressing both buttons simultaneously. This is called "chording" the mouse. Perhaps Intution could support this.
bader+@andrew.cmu.edu (Miles Bader) (03/27/89)
dan@ivucsb.UUCP (Dan Howell) writes: > On Xerox workstations, the function of a middle button is emulated on a two > button mouse by pressing both buttons simultaneously. This is called > "chording" the mouse. Perhaps Intution could support this. Definitely. [It may sound inconvenient, but in practice, it's just fine]
utoddl@ecsvax.UUCP (Todd M. Lewis) (03/27/89)
In article <663@ivucsb.UUCP>, dan@ivucsb.UUCP (Dan Howell) writes: > In article <110@ssibbs.UUCP> jac@ssibbs.UUCP (James Crotinger) writes: > | Also, as implied by the first paragraph, I'd like to see pop-up > |menus and Intuition support of a middle mouse button, with a suitable > |alternative for two button Amigans. > > On Xerox workstations, the function of a middle button is emulated on a two > button mouse by pressing both buttons simultaneously. This is called > "chording" the mouse. Perhaps Intution could support this. Hmmm. Lets see. 1 button, 0 chords. 2 buttons, 1 chord. 3 buttons, 3 chords. I see trouble ahead.
chas@gtss.gatech.edu (Charles Cleveland) (03/28/89)
In article <6731@ecsvax.UUCP> utoddl@ecsvax.UUCP (Todd M. Lewis) writes: )In article <663@ivucsb.UUCP>, dan@ivucsb.UUCP (Dan Howell) writes: )> On Xerox workstations, the function of a middle button is emulated on a two )> button mouse by pressing both buttons simultaneously. This is called )> "chording" the mouse. Perhaps Intution could support this. ) )Hmmm. Lets see. 1 button, 0 chords. 2 buttons, 1 chord. )3 buttons, 3 chords. I see trouble ahead. (Yes. And here it comes.) Hey, eight buttons and we can enter the entire ASCII code set (including the high order bit) directly with the mouse! Mousers will be able to dispense with that pesky keyboard at last. Or better yet, since it would be hard to enter NUL just with the mouse, how about just putting a inverted trackball on the bottom of the keyboard. That would give us something like a hundred- button mouse, free up the mouse port up for something useful like a second joystick, and open up desk space besides. Let's see BM and Apple compete with that. -- "Our vision is to speed up time, eventually eliminating it." -- Alex Schure Charles Cleveland Georgia Tech School of Physics Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 UUCP: ...!gatech!gtss!chas INTERNET: chas@gtss.gatech.edu
darin@nova.laic.uucp (Darin Johnson) (03/28/89)
In article <4Y=Fz7y00UkaMLBMV1@andrew.cmu.edu> bader+@andrew.cmu.edu (Miles Bader) writes: >dan@ivucsb.UUCP (Dan Howell) writes: >> On Xerox workstations, the function of a middle button is emulated on a two >> button mouse by pressing both buttons simultaneously. This is called >> "chording" the mouse. Perhaps Intution could support this. > >Definitely. [It may sound inconvenient, but in practice, it's just fine] This may break some things. I know of at least two programs that use a sequence like "hold left mouse button, then click right mouse button". Also, holding the right mouse button and then clicking the left means extended menu selection from Intuition. Perhaps if Intuition could do this if (and only if) you didn't ask about mouse down messages. As always, this behavior should only occur when the program explicitly asks for it, otherwise it can break stuff. Perhaps a simple way of doing this, without adding stuff to intuition or breaking programs, would be to have a simple low level input handler which returns a middle-mouse (up and down) when this happens. This way, if anything breaks, only the user who started the input handler is to blame. (should be relatively simple to write using dmouse as an example program. The priority of the handler should be carefully though out though.) Darin Johnson (leadsv!laic!darin@pyramid.pyramid.com) Can you "Spot the Looney"?
slaurel@contact.UUCP (David Maxwell) (03/28/89)
In article <4Y=Fz7y00UkaMLBMV1@andrew.cmu.edu> bader+@andrew.cmu.edu (Miles Bader) writes: >dan@ivucsb.UUCP (Dan Howell) writes: >> On Xerox workstations, the function of a middle button is emulated on a two >> button mouse by pressing both buttons simultaneously. This is called >> "chording" the mouse. Perhaps Intution could support this. > >Definitely. [It may sound inconvenient, but in practice, it's just fine] I have no problem with this, however, some programs (Qmouse, Clkdj for example) use a 'hold down the menu button and click the left button' type action. (In my examples, it's used to click a window to the back) This could be a problem, another problem could be if someone decided to apply this to a three button mouse... i.e. 'Hold down the middle button and click the left button' or one of the other three actions 'impossible' on a two-button mouse. David Maxwell slaurel@contact
darin@nova.laic.uucp (Darin Johnson) (03/29/89)
In article <399@gtss.gatech.edu> chas@gtss.UUCP (Charles Cleveland) writes: >Hey, eight buttons and we can enter the entire ASCII code set (including >the high order bit) directly with the mouse! Mousers will be able to dispense >with that pesky keyboard at last. Or better yet, since it would be hard to >enter NUL just with the mouse, how about just putting a inverted trackball on >the bottom of the keyboard. That would give us something like a hundred- >button mouse, free up the mouse port up for something useful like a >second joystick, and open up desk space besides. Let's see BM and Apple >compete with that. > >Charles Cleveland Georgia Tech School of Physics Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 Actually, it's not so far fetched. I read an article in the paper awhile back about a partially handicapped person who found it very hard to switch between the keyboard and the mouse continuously. So invented keyboard that acted as a mouse. The keyboard would slide around, and had a blank area to rest your palms. A special key was used as the mouse click (I seem to recall that it was just below the space bar and pressed with the thumb). This was a MacIntosh, so the keyboard was pretty small anyway, and you only needed one button. He tried it out on some of his non-handicapped friends and they liked it. I don't recall if he was selling it or not. (gosh, no more cursor keys :-) Darin Johnson (leadsv!laic!darin@pyramid.pyramid.com) Can you "Spot the Looney"?
bader+@andrew.cmu.edu (Miles Bader) (03/29/89)
darin@nova.laic.uucp (Darin Johnson) writes: > In article <4Y=Fz7y00UkaMLBMV1@andrew.cmu.edu> bader+@andrew.cmu.edu (Miles Bader) writes: > >dan@ivucsb.UUCP (Dan Howell) writes: > >> On Xerox workstations, the function of a middle button is emulated on a > >> two button mouse by pressing both buttons simultaneously. This is > >> called "chording" the mouse. Perhaps Intution could support this. > > > >Definitely. [It may sound inconvenient, but in practice, it's just fine] > > This may break some things. I know of at least two programs that use > a sequence like "hold left mouse button, then click right mouse > button". Also, holding the right mouse button and then clicking the > left means extended menu selection from Intuition. On the machine I'm using (that does the middle-button emulation), a chord is only interpreted as a middle button if the buttons both go down within some small time period (about 30ms) of each either. So you have have both a middle button and right-left (or left-right) down sequences on a two button mouse... -Miles