papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (03/08/89)
OXXI and Felsina Software have announced support for ASDG's multi- -serial cards. While the full press release will appear (soon) in comp.newprod, these are some excerpts. Subscribe to comp.newprod if you wish to see all the details (including how to upgrade). In the interest of "standardization" I have decided to "freely redistribute" the A-Talk III code that permits access to multi-serial ports from TOOL and PROJECT icons, as well as from the CLI. It should appear soon on comp.sys.amiga.tech. Press 'n', if you wish to skip the "commercialism". ---------------------- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: OXXI, INC. (213)427-1227 A-TALK III SUPPORTS ASDG'S MULTI-SERIAL PORT BOARDS --------------------------------------------------- Long Beach, CA -- February 28, 1989 -- A-Talk III is the first commercial software product on the Amiga computer to support the new multi-serial ports from ASDG, Inc. With A-Talk III and the new ASDG DSP (Dual Serial Board) ports, Amiga 2000 users can now simultaneously drive multiple serial port devices such as modems, printers and digitizers concurrently. [...] A-Talk III also supports the ASDG's TwinX-based SBX-Serial/2 and SBX-Serial/4 boards, that allow the "industrial" user with up to 16 serial ports. OXXI and the developer of A-Talk III have been actively involved with the development of multi-serial support drivers for the Amiga together with ASDG, Commodore Business Machines and other hardware vendors. A-Talk III's implementation of multi-serial support fully conforms with the CBM Multi-Serial Specification. A-Talk III works also with the "announced, but not yet available" A2232 multi-serial card from Commodore. [...] -------- end of quote Enjoy. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
a3@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Allen) (03/12/89)
Great news. Now the big question. Is there an implamentation of a BBS program that will run with the ASDG Board and 4 serial modems (never seen a parallel modem:-). Our group has been hot after a multi-line BBS running on an Amiga since we first formed 3 years ago. If we can do it without running Unix on a 2000 it will be a BIG plus. -- RSI-where WEDGES come from // Multi-Tasking is my life! 9651 Alexandra Road // Name: Dave Allen Richmond, B.C. Canada \\ // Phone: (604) 278-6694 - MIND LINK (604) 533-2312 V6X 1C6 \X/ UseNet: uunet!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!Dave_Allen
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (03/14/89)
In article <124@mindlink.UUCP| a3@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Allen) writes: |Great news. Now the big question. Is there an implamentation of a BBS program |that will run with the ASDG Board and 4 serial modems (never seen a parallel |modem:-). Our group has been hot after a multi-line BBS running on an Amiga |since we first formed 3 years ago. |If we can do it without running Unix on a 2000 it will be a BIG plus. Nope, there is NO BBS program for the Amiga that supports multiple lines. I guess there might be a market out there (hint, hint). -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
aegnor@bsu-cs.UUCP (David C. Powell) (03/14/89)
In article <124@mindlink.UUCP> a3@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Allen) writes: >Great news. Now the big question. Is there an implamentation of a BBS program >that will run with the ASDG Board and 4 serial modems (never seen a parallel >modem:-). Our group has been hot after a multi-line BBS running on an Amiga >since we first formed 3 years ago. > >If we can do it without running Unix on a 2000 it will be a BIG plus. > >-- >RSI-where WEDGES come from // Multi-Tasking is my life! >9651 Alexandra Road // Name: Dave Allen >Richmond, B.C. Canada \\ // Phone: (604) 278-6694 - MIND LINK (604) 533-2312 >V6X 1C6 \X/ UseNet: uunet!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!Dave_Allen Well, nothing 'official/commercial' as of yet, but I was over at a friend of mines 2 weeks ago and he had HIS BBS program running with a terminal off the Serial line, the console going as a process and another hanging off the Parallel line.. I am not too sure (though I believe he 'Wants one real bad to test..') about the ASDG serial board, but if he can get 2 terminals talking at the same time off of both the Serial AND the Parallel, I would think this would be 'trivial' to do, if anybody wants to know more, Email me and I shall 'pass on' your questions as I really did not pick up any of the particulars beyond 'yes it will handle more than 1 person at a time' and that it handles various file-transfer protocols... Hope this helps/leads you to your answer!!! p.s. Yes this was on an Amiga 2000 (in case you were wondering...) Sincerly, David C. Powell M.I.S. Senior Ball State University Muncie, Indiana *-David Powell :ARPA: aegnor@bsu-cs.bsu.edu--------------------------* | \/ President :UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!aegnor | | /\etwnk Industries, Ltd. : | *-"If it doesn't work, we DIDN'T do it!"-----------------------------*
simon@copper.columbia.edu (Thor Simon) (03/15/89)
Actually, there IS now a bbs program for the Amiga 2000 that supports multi-serial cards! Sorry to let you down but I can't remember it's name...It was at AmiExpo. The author said it would support the ASDG board *when they could afford a few for testing* (big company here) and currently supports a card (once again, I forgot the name) that will be availiable in May that gives 8 lines for $350... not bad! Interested? Mail me and I'll dig up the names, OK? I know I have those flyers around here somewhere.
gay%elde.epfl.ch@cunyvm.cuny.edu (David Gay) (03/15/89)
In article <124@mindlink.UUCP> a3@mindlink.uucp (Dave Allen) writes: > >Great news. Now the big question. Is there an implamentation of a BBS program >that will run with the ASDG Board and 4 serial modems (never seen a parallel >modem:-). Our group has been hot after a multi-line BBS running on an Amiga >since we first formed 3 years ago. Well, a friend of mine has this as his next semester's project in Computer Science. So, maybe (I hope so for him !), there will soon be one ... There of course remains the problem of who will have the rights to the code seeing that it will be done as a project, though not on the polytechnic's computers. > >If we can do it without running Unix on a 2000 it will be a BIG plus. > >-- >RSI-where WEDGES come from // Multi-Tasking is my life! >9651 Alexandra Road // Name: Dave Allen >Richmond, B.C. Canada \\ // Phone: (604) 278-6694 - MIND LINK (604) 533-2312 >V6X 1C6 \X/ UseNet: uunet!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!Dave_Allen > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Gay 6 x 9 = 42 GAY@ELDE.EPFL.CH, or GAY%ELDE.EPFL.CH@CLSEPF51.bitnet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com (03/16/89)
Sorry Marco, but you are WRONG! :] There is a multi-user BBS program for the
Amiga. It is called IDS Multoboard. It will support up to 32 users I think
it was at the same time. I saw it with my own eyes at AmiExpo NY. And it is
looking pretty nice. Will have an ARexx port, drop to DOS function support
for online multoplayer games...
The name of the program is IDS MultiBoard here is some of the features, this
info comes from a flyer I picked up at their booth at AmiExpo...
o True multiuser operation.
o Fully Intuition Controlled.
o High Speed Dynamic Code.
o CB Simulator with 32 Channels.
o Real time user paging system.
o baud rates up to 56,700 BPS.
o Automatic system maintence.
o No slow down with multiple users.
o Create system menus easily with menumaker.
o Fully Multi-tasking; Doesn't hog the CPU.
o Up to 32 simultaneous online users.
o Console screen allows easy supervision.
o Advanced message editor with word wrap.
o View individual Users: See exactly what they do.
o 65,535 Security levels: Individual RWUD for each user.
o High speed file formats for a suprisingly FAST system.
o XModem, XModem-CRC, YModem, YModem-Batch ad WXmodem.
o 20 file libraries & 20 Message bases & personal E-Mail system.
o Run a single user system throught the Amiga's standard serial port.
There, that is my 2 cents worth.. Just thought that other folks would be
interested to know that YES, there is a multiuser BBS for the Amiga.
Here is the Address of the Company...
Intercore Development Systems
Joseph H. Drumm
24 Bruce Drive
S. Setauket, NY. 11720
(516) 981-5930
I have no connection with the company, other than a potential customer.
- Doug -
Doug_B_Erdely@Portal.Cup.Compapa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (03/16/89)
In article <6226@columbia.edu> simon@copper.UUCP (Thor Simon) writes: >Actually, there IS now a bbs program for the Amiga 2000 that supports ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >multi-serial cards! Sorry to let you down but I can't remember it's >name...It was at AmiExpo. The author said it would support the ASDG ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >board *when they could afford a few for testing* (big company here) >and currently supports a card (once again, I forgot the name) that >will be availiable in May that gives 8 lines for $350... not bad! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry to let you down, but "available in May" and "it would support" are clearly incompatible with "there is NOW". We all know about "product announcements" and actual release dates. [Remember AMIC? and AMIC BBS, which were supposed to be available 14 months ago?] The truth is that there are a few software developers working on multi-serial BBS programs. NONE, I repeat, NONE are available NOW. Since all these developments were started from the availability of the ASDG cards, nobody clearly has an edge on anybody else. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (03/17/89)
In article <15881@cup.portal.com> Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com writes: >Sorry Marco, but you are WRONG! :] There is a multi-user BBS program for the >Amiga. It is called IDS Multoboard. It will support up to 32 users I think >it was at the same time. I saw it with my own eyes at AmiExpo NY. And it is >looking pretty nice. Will have an ARexx port, drop to DOS function support >for online multoplayer games... > >The name of the program is IDS MultiBoard here is some of the features, this >info comes from a flyer I picked up at their booth at AmiExpo... The difference between "picking up a flyer", "announcing a product", "showing a demo at a show", and actually SHIPPING a product is the same as between heaven and hearth. Note that right now there are NO hardware boards that support 32 serial ports. The ASDG Twin-x based serial driver supports a maximum of 16 ports, with 2 boards and 4 SERIAL/4 modules (at last count from Perry). Until I see an announcement of the type "this BBS software is available NOW and it costs xxxx $$$", all of this is simply "vaporware". -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com (03/19/89)
Marco, give me a break. Yes, you can have upto 32 serial ports. just plug multiple boards in, they DO autoconfigure. Second, the price is $329. And third :> I saw the software running with my own two eyes! Much different than Amic BBS. Did anyone EVER actually see ANYTHING from them other than their term program? And are they still around? - Doug - Doug_B_Erdely@Portal.Cup.Com
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (03/20/89)
In article <16012@cup.portal.com> Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com writes: >Marco, give me a break. Yes, you can have upto 32 serial ports. just plug >multiple boards in, they DO autoconfigure. Second, the price is $329. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Are you talking about the ASDG Twin-X boards? At the time I got the Twin-X Serial from ASDG there was a limit of 2 boards, with a maximum of 16 serial ports (4 SERIAL/4 modules). Has this changed, Perry? Note that assuming you could plug in 32 serial ports, you'd need *4* A2000 slots. The price if what is $329? The BBS software? >And third :> I saw the software running with my own two eyes! Much different >than Amic BBS. Did anyone EVER actually see ANYTHING from them other than >their term program? And are they still around? I recall rumours they were bought out by Haitex, but the latest software list in AC mentions them as Amic Development. I wonder what happened to the money they got as advance payments at the AmiExpo LA in Jan. 1987 [talk about "vaporware" :-)]. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
ejkst@cisunx.UUCP (Eric J. Kennedy) (03/21/89)
In article <16012@cup.portal.com> Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com writes: >Marco, give me a break. Yes, you can have upto 32 serial ports. just plug >multiple boards in, they DO autoconfigure. Second, the price is $329. >And third :> I saw the software running with my own two eyes! Much different The question is not whether you've seen it operate, but whether you (or I) can go out and buy it *today*. You haven't said explicitly, but I get the impression that the answer is no. Which means it doesn't exist yet. Which is what Marco said. -- Eric Kennedy ejkst@cisunx.UUCP
Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com (03/21/89)
Marco, I was refering to the multi-serial card for Amigo computers. It sells for around $325 for 8 ports if I remember right. The BBS software is supposed to sell for around $329. At least that is what I think he said when I asked him about the price. :> - Doug - Douglas_B_Erdely@Portal.Cup.Com
hah@inteloa.intel.com (Hans A. Hansen) (03/22/89)
In article <16012@cup.portal.com> Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com writes:
$Marco, give me a break. Yes, you can have upto 32 serial ports. just plug
$multiple boards in, they DO autoconfigure. Second, the price is $329.
$And third :> I saw the software running with my own two eyes! Much different
$than Amic BBS. Did anyone EVER actually see ANYTHING from them other than
$their term program? And are they still around?
$
$ - Doug -
$
$Doug_B_Erdely@Portal.Cup.Com
Unless the Multipul Serial boards use DMA the 68K overhead to service that
many ports using the hardware that I understand ASDG is using will bring
the system to a snail's pace. Even the Cirrus Logic CL-CD180 that we
have designed into our board will be hard pressed to service that many
ports at anything over 2400 BAUD using a standard 7MHz 68K clock.
Hansperry@madnix.UUCP (Perry Kivolowitz) (03/22/89)
In article <15974@oberon.USC.EDU> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: >Are you talking about the ASDG Twin-X boards? At the time I got the Twin-X >Serial from ASDG there was a limit of 2 boards, with a maximum of 16 serial >ports (4 SERIAL/4 modules). Has this changed, Perry? Note that assuming Since the first beta version of the new driver I've kept a compiled in limitation of 24 ports simply cuz I didn't think it was likely that anyone would be able to get more than 24 serial lines out the back of their machine. So, that'd work out to 3 Twin-X each to 2 Serial/4's. Since the very same driver works with the Dual Serial Board, you can have as many as 10 of those ports on an A2000. BTW: I am told our DOS handlers are almost done which will allow ser: and aux: functionality over multiple ports. pk -- Perry Kivolowitz, ASDG Inc. ARPA: madnix!perry@cs.wisc.edu {uunet|ncoast}!marque! UUCP: {harvard|rutgers|ucbvax}!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!perry CIS: 76004,1765 (what was that about ``giggling teenagers''?)
perry@madnix.UUCP (Perry Kivolowitz) (04/02/89)
In article <16063@cup.portal.com> Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com writes: >Marco, > I was refering to the multi-serial card for Amigo computers. It sells for >around $325 for 8 ports if I remember right. The BBS software is supposed to >sell for around $329. At least that is what I think he said when I asked him (Note: It is part of our business to collect information about potentially competing products. Since noone seems to know details about this board and software, I will share what we have learned. Since the board is potentailly a competing product to our DSB, take this information as having from a competitor if you prefer, however, nothing contained herein is knowingly false.) Three things about the board in question: 1. While the board can accomodate eight ports, the manufacturer only provides connectors for 2 ports in the form of one 25 pin port and one 15 pin port. The remaining 6 ports, if configured, are up to the consumer to bring out of the box. The board shown had only one port running. 2. The device driver used to program the board is *NOT* compatible with serial.device. We were not able to learn if the board had DOS or CLI support. 3. We have not learned of any firm delivery date or price. Some things to note about the Multi-User BBS software: 1. The name of the company is Intercore Development Corp. They are based in East Setauket, N.Y. (In fact, a few blocks from where I lived in graduate school at Stoned Brook). 2. They will be receiving four serial ports from ASDG in this coming week. Since they support the Amiga serial.device as one port, Intercore looks forward to using the compatible ASDG driver with no changes in code. Perry Kivolowitz -- Perry Kivolowitz, ASDG Inc. ARPA: madnix!perry@cs.wisc.edu {uunet|ncoast}!marque! UUCP: {harvard|rutgers|ucbvax}!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!perry CIS: 76004,1765 (what was that about ``giggling teenagers''?)