[comp.sys.amiga] Games on Hard disks

fnf@estinc.UUCP (Fred Fish) (01/27/89)

Does anyone have any comprehensive lists of what quality commercial 
games can be run from a hard disk?  I would expect there are several
catagories:

(1)	Games which can be installed simply by copying the distribution
	to the hard disk and setting up a few assigns in your
	startup sequence (I shouldn't need more than one hand
	to count these...)

(2)	Games which can be installed by using one of the commercial
	disk copier / copy breaker type programs, and then installed
	as in (1), possibly with some additional poking and patching
	of the binaries to remove things like hardcoded references
	to df0:.

(3)	Games which can be installed by obtaining a copy from a
	pirate that has spent mucho time cracking the game and
	getting it running.  As usual, the bad guys get convenient
	usage and the good guys get the shaft...  :-(

	(I'm only interested in (1) and (2)...)

I'm having a party in a couple weeks and I'd like to set up the
machine so several games are available and there are no loose
floppies laying around to wander off.

-Fred
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jesup@cbmvax.UUCP (Randell Jesup) (01/28/89)

In article <21@estinc.UUCP> fnf@estinc.UUCP (Fred Fish) writes:
>Does anyone have any comprehensive lists of what quality commercial 
>games can be run from a hard disk?  I would expect there are several
>catagories:

	No comprehensive list, but I'll do my best.

>(1)	Games which can be installed simply by copying the distribution
>	to the hard disk and setting up a few assigns in your
>	startup sequence (I shouldn't need more than one hand
>	to count these...)

War games, no good for parties (too long):
	Sub Battle Simulator, Epyx.  No assigns needed, hd-install script
	in s: for installation.  Is much nicer to play on HD or with extra
	memory (it uses expansion ram to cache images/sounds.)  Multitasking.
	disclaimer: I ported it.  A bit more of a simulation than Silent
	Service.  Key disk protection.  Port of Mac version.  Works with
	68020.

	Gettysburg, SSI.  Assigns needed, word from manual protection.
	Port of 8-bit version with some improvements to UI, game the same.
	Multitasking.  1.0 has a number of bugs, 1.3 is latest version
	(I bought mine a month ago and got 1.0, and am upgrading).  Good game,
	if you like wargames.  Works with 68020.

	UMS, Rainbird.  Assigns needed, word from manual protection.
	Port of ST version.  UI is slow, and redraws FAR too much.  Interesting
	idea, tries for a bit too much.  Works with 68020.  Multitasking,
	runs on WB, changes WB colors (but can change them back to normal).

Good party games:
	Hole-In-One Minature Golf, (I forget).  Installable on HD, but takes
	a bit of work to use from HD due to key disk system (have to be
	careful to not end up loading off floppy.)  Sometimes bangs floppy
	heads around.  Works on '020, but seems to eventually lock up.
	Not a bad game though, comes with 5 or 6 courses (can't remember).

	Shanghai, Activision (Megiagenic).  Assign needed.  Works on 68020.
	Great graphics, fun to play.  Can be good 2-player game too (tournaments
	and timed play).

	There are others, I'm sure.

-- 
Randell Jesup, Commodore Engineering {uunet|rutgers|allegra}!cbmvax!jesup

pdg@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Paul Gootherts) (01/29/89)

>	(1)	Games which can be installed simply by copying the distribution
>		to the hard disk and setting up a few assigns in your
>		startup sequence (I shouldn't need more than one hand
>		to count these...)

Empire by Interstel.

- Paul Gootherts, Hewlett-Packard Co, hplabs!hpda!pdg

Sullivan@cup.portal.com (sullivan - segall) (01/30/89)

Type 1:

Bard's Tale 2. (Not very good for parties)
Flight Simulator 2.  The current revision is unprotected, but nukes the machine.
Sex Vixens from space.  (depends on the party, eh?)
Paladin.  (Not a very good game)
All Infocom Adventures.
Ports of Call.  (Nukes the machine, Manual protected)
MindWalker. (KS 1.1)

Type 2:

F/A 18 Interceptor. (Nukes the machine.  Code wheel patch was on UseNet)
Bard's Tale 1 (Marauder's Decode)


Type 3:

Crystal Hammer.  (nukes machine)
Star Wars. (nukes machine)
Battle ships.  (nukes machine)


Demos:

Dungeon Master
Ferrari


Public Domain:

esp:
Asteriods  [sic]
Amoeba
Grav Attack  (nukes the machine)
Clue
GravWar (v2)
Tiles (v1)  (v2 is out, but much too slow)
tetrix
Moria2


                           -Sullivan Segall
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scotty@ziggy.UUCP (Scott Drysdale) (02/01/89)

In article <14097@cup.portal.com> Sullivan@cup.portal.com (sullivan - segall) writes:
>Type 1:
... stuff deleted ...
>MindWalker. (KS 1.1)
>                           -Sullivan Segall

i've got mindwalker running under 1.3, and it's even on my hard disk.
needs an install for MWDisk:, that's all.

  --Scotty

cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) (02/02/89)

Is someone collecting all of these (the original inquirer, perhaps?) and could
we get a summary when the late results stop dribbling in?  I haven't been
keeping all of the singular entries and random comments, and now I'm at the
point where I can't figure out *anything* (geez, do you guys really remember
what "case 3" was???).  Thanks
   /Bernie\

chiodo@ihlpb.ATT.COM (Chiodo) (04/06/89)

Hi Netters,

I'm finally getting a hard disk and along with the usual stuff I want to put
some games on it. I have not been saving any of the messages explaining 
how to put certain games on a hard disk. I would like to create a list of
games and how to install them on a hard disk. Please if you have had any 
luck (even with non-copyprotected games) email me the procedure to install.
I will summarize to the net.

Has anyone had any problem with Battlechess trashing harddisks ?? One of
the lastest AmigaWorld issues mentioned it. I hope it can be fixed (if
true). I like the hard disk install program, beats the heck out of
most *REAL* application programs for Amiga :-( 


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farrier@Apple.COM (Cary Farrier) (04/06/89)

In article <10146@ihlpb.ATT.COM> chiodo@ihlpb.ATT.COM (Chiodo) writes:
>[...] I like the hard disk install program, beats the heck out of
>most *REAL* application programs for Amiga :-( 

	Oh really?  Then let me know how it does in the areas of Animation,
	Sound, Acounting, Word Processing, Data Base Management, and
	Entertainment.

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