rogerh@arizona.edu (Roger Hayes) (09/16/87)
I have been thinking about this approach, too. It seems useful to embed TCP (and UDP?) in the filesystem. For example, type <tcp:10.0.0.51/13 would get the time (tcp port 13, the daytime protocol) from sri-nic (internet address 10.0.0.51). I agree that it might not be possible to model all of TCP's semantics this way. Note that BSD sockets provide an incomplete but still useful model of TCP; they don't handle urgent data very well. They also support the read & write calls, once they're connected; so someone thought that it would be useful to be able to treat a connection like a file. It would be real slick to be able to use names instead of IP addresses: type <tcp:barrel.arizona.edu/79 rogerh to do a 'finger' on me. Then there's a NFS device: perhaps mount each remote machine? So copy c:foobar to cholla:/usr/rogerh/amiga/archive copies a file to a server's disk. If this works, some of us might be faced with a decision: hard disk or network interface? What model does Ameristar present to the user? Roger Hayes rogerh@arizona.edu I wish I had time to work on all this; maybe next year, after dissertation.
mwm@eris.UUCP (09/17/87)
In article <2009@megaron.arizona.edu> rogerh@arizona.edu (Roger Hayes) writes:
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Surprise! I'm already in that position. I'm trying to decide between
the ASDG SPD (when I can get one) and an Ameristar card (when the Sun
arrives). Been trying to get a hold of Ameristar to find out how long
I'll be able to get their Zorro-I card, and if it'll work in an ASDG
Mini-Rack. The SPD I know will work in the mini-rack, but costs more.
Anyone out there want to try answering these questions?
<mike
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Will your love ever be mine? mwm@ucbjade.BITNETroot@sbcs.UUCP (Root) (09/18/87)
> I have been thinking about this approach, too. It seems useful to > embed TCP (and UDP?) in the filesystem. For example, > type <tcp:10.0.0.51/13 Yes, Ameristar supports opening IP/UDP/TCP this way. For example: inet:tcp/10.0.0.51/13 inet:udp/10.0.0.22/100 for tcp connections, MODE_{NEW/OLD}FILE sets whether you're active/passive. The stuff I originally wrote was a shared library, but I decided to switch over to a handler so that user programs could do Open/Read/Write/Close as if the network was just another file. > I agree that it might not be possible to model all of TCP's semantics > this way. Note that BSD sockets provide an incomplete but still useful Ameristar supports BSD style socket interface, also. Not in general release, yet (~4 alpha testers have socket stuff now).. > > Then there's a NFS device: perhaps mount each remote machine? > So > copy c:foobar to cholla:/usr/rogerh/amiga/archive > copies a file to a server's disk. If this works, some of us > might be faced with a decision: hard disk or network interface? > What model does Ameristar present to the user? Right. One volume per remote mounted machine:partition. For development, I used to use a hard disk + NFS, but lately (and probably UNTIL I can get Commodores FFS + real fast SCSI iron) I use only NFS. Really flies when loading 300K+ NeWS binaries.. Of course if you have a room full of Amigas or you want to share files off'n a Vax or Sun somewhere, you definitely want NFS. > Roger Hayes > rogerh@arizona.edu > Rick Spanbauer SUNY/Stony Brook PS. I've said it before, and here it is again: I'm am definitely biased in matters Ameristar - I do development for them..
perry@atux01.UUCP (Perry S. Kivolowitz) (09/18/87)
In article <5116@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>, mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer) writes: > Surprise! I'm already in that position. I'm trying to decide between > the ASDG SPD (when I can get one) and an Ameristar card (when the Sun > arrives). Been trying to get a hold of Ameristar to find out how long > I'll be able to get their Zorro-I card, and if it'll work in an ASDG > Mini-Rack. The SPD I know will work in the mini-rack, but costs more. Ameristar has expressed the desire not to build and support two types of networking cards (A1000 and A2000) but rather to concentrate on providing quality support for one product (an A2000 card). As such, we have been talking together about the potential for persons owning A1000s who want Ameristar's networking boards to purchase the A2000 card and the ASDG 2000-and-1 (direct from Ameristar or at a discount direct from ASDG). While this relationship is not yet in practice it has been indicated to me by Ameristar representatives that it is ok to talk about. More information about Ameristar/ASDG Mini-Rack compatibility can come from Ameristar. However, I can tell you that a Mini-Rack-D will support anything that is really Zorro I compatible. As for the Mini-Rack-C? Well, there is the potential that it will work - we'll have to ask Ameristar. Perry S. Kivolowitz - ASDG Incorporated - (201) 563-0529 Please use the well!perry address for mail as this uid is completely un- relaiable for mail.
BLANK@BRANDEIS.BITNET (David N. Blank * BLANK@BRANDEIS.bitnet) (05/14/89)
Greetings-
Perhaps some kind soul can help me attain the program TCP/IP for the
Amiga (by Louis Mamakos, I belive). I was just teased by a garbled
copy on a local BBS and would love to get a working copy. I would
greatly appreciate it if someone could either send me the program
(docs & executable mandatory, but source in addition to those two
would be nice, for curiosity sake), or point me in the right
direction. My ftp access is virtually nil, unfortunately. Please
respond by email, since my feed of c.s.amiga disappears soon. Once
again, thanks in advance.
Respectfully,
David N. Blank
dnb@cs.brandeis.edu (CSNET, preferable address)
blank@brandeis.bitnet (BITNET, until May 21)
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