[comp.sys.amiga] Mac 64K ROMs for sale

dennya@pnet02.cts.com (Denny Atkin) (05/10/89)

For sale: 
 
        1 Set of Original Apple Macintosh 64K ROM chips
          Suitable for use in A-Max or Magic Sac (Which by the
          way is coming in an Amiga version RSN!)
 
                                      $30 shipped
 
These list for $39+shipping in Computer Shopper ads.  Note that these are
NOT the ultimate ROMs for A-Max use.  The 128K Mac+ ROMs have definite
advantages, including the ability to use HyperCard and Multifinder. 
However, MAC+ ROMS list for about $150 mail order and are REAL hard to
find right now.  I finally found some at Shreve Systems for $145 today. 
New replacement Mac+ ROMs from Apple cost $200/set according to the local
Mac service center.  The 64K ROMs will run most of the software, and are
MUCH cheaper.
 
Anyway, if anyone is interested in these ROMs, leave me EMAIL at the
address below.
 
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gaynor@clover.cis.ohio-state.edu (Vampire) (05/11/89)

In article <15634@gryphon.COM> dennya@pnet02.cts.com (Denny Atkin) writes:
>For sale: 
> 
>        1 Set of Original Apple Macintosh 64K ROM chips
>          Suitable for use in A-Max or Magic Sac (Which by the
>          way is coming in an Amiga version RSN!)
>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And we've been hearing that line from the Magic Sac folks for how long now?


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mowgli@bat.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mowgli Assor) (05/14/89)

In article <47842@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Vampire <gaynor@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes:

>
>And we've been hearing that line from the Magic Sac folks for how long now?
>
>
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Well, actually unless the company that makes Magic Sac (originally started by
Dan Moore & Dave Small) has improved recently, it isn't very reputable in the
ST world, at least. Seems they were having some problems with the FCC, & then
Dan & Dave both took off. And, there might also have been software troubles
with Apple (but these I am less sure of).

Dave has recently introduced Spectre, which works with the 128K ROMs (Magic
Sac works only with the 64K ROMs). I hadn't realized that the company that
makes Magic Sac was working on an Amiga version.

I don't know, Amax looks interesting, though.

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dlm@druwy.ATT.COM (Dan Moore) (05/15/89)

in article <48310@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>, mowgli@bat.cis.ohio-state.edu
(Mowgli Assor) says:
> Well, actually unless the company that makes Magic Sac (originally started by
> Dan Moore & Dave Small) has improved recently, it isn't very reputable in the
> ST world, at least.

	The abridged version of the Data Pacific history, only the
public info:

	Data Pacific was started by Joel Rosenblum quite a few years ago
(I believe he was still working at Vault in LA) as a computer consulting
company.  Sometime right after the ST shipped Dave mentioned to me that
it would be a great idea to make the ST run Mac software.  The problem
was that he didn't have the money to live off while he did the work. 
Dave started talking to Joel (old high school friend) about it.  Joel
agreed to supply the money via Data Pacific, Dave would become half
owner of Data Pacific in exchange for his idea and the code to make it
work.  I did some consulting work for Data Pacific during the first year
they sold Magic Sacs.  I started working for them full time after a deal
with an Amiga software company located in Florida fell through (I was
never paid for porting an Amiga spreadsheet to the ST).

	At some point Joel had a change of heart, he never signed the
papers giving Dave half ownership.  Dave finally got fed up and left the
company, I left about a month later.

> Seems they were having some problems with the FCC, & then
> Dan & Dave both took off.

	The FCC problems actually occured after we left.  We both
suspected there would be a big problem, which was a factor in our
decisions.  Basicly Joel had placed a fake FCC id number on the
Translator One.

> And, there might also have been software troubles
> with Apple (but these I am less sure of).

	There were no problems with Apple.

> I hadn't realized that the company that makes Magic Sac was working on
> an Amiga version.

	At one time (before Dave and I left) there was lots of thought
given to an Amiga version, but no decision was made.  They did start
keeping a list of interested parties with a promise to contact them
if/when they decided to release an Amiga version.

	Data Pacific currently has no programmers working for them.  So
they aren't working on an Amiga port.  It seems they plan to buy copies
of Amax and re-sell them as the "Amiga Magic Sac".  I don't know if
Readysoft is going to allow them to do this or not.  (I'm also not sure
if Readysoft can legally prevent it.)

> I don't know, Amax looks interesting, though.

	Amax is a very nice product.  The early versions I saw were
very impressive (note this was before Readysoft was involved).


 

				Dan Moore
				AT&T Bell Labs
				Denver
				dlm@druwy.ATT.COM