papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (05/23/89)
The LA World of Commodore Show was a reall bummer in my opinion for a number of reasons. First of all nothing really new was shown; the only interesting things were Music-X, which is (as usual) 3-weeks away from release (i.e, 3-months away or 3-years away, make your pick :-), and MINITEL, that does not run on an Amiga. The organization by the Hunter Group was terrible. Friday the show was absolutely EMPTY: which Angelinos go to Downtown LA on Friday? NOBODY!!! But the highlight (or more appropriately low-light) of the show was the cheap sale held by Keith Masavage, Amiga Product Manager for Commodore U.S.A. sales subsidiary right before dismantling CBM's booth. Keith gave away at slashed prices software and hardware left from the User Group promotions, including a bunch of cheap VCRs. Everybody knows that CBM paid almost nothing for the User Group software (lots of companies ended up losing money on that offer). The spectacle was sad and humiliating to say the least. It portrayed an image of CBM sales and marketing that is simply abysmal. Hey, guys, why don't you THINK before doing such things of the impact that it can have on Commodore's image in the media. Some comments I overheard were to the effect of "Would you ever see IBM or Apple do something like THIS?". It was sad, really sad :-( -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (05/23/89)
In article <17361@usc.edu> papa@pollux.usc.edu (I) write: >But the highlight (or more appropriately low-light) of the show was the cheap >sale held by Keith Masavage, Amiga Product Manager for Commodore U.S.A. sales >subsidiary right before dismantling CBM's booth. ... >Hey, guys, why don't you THINK before doing such things of the impact that >it can have on Commodore's image in the media. Let me be clear that I didn't imply that everybody at sales&market was responsible for this screw-up. There are some very knowledgeable people and some good friends in that dept. at CBM, BUT when the Manager is directly involved in such things it clearly portrays the image of an entire department. This is all more troublesome, considering that at least 3 members of the press, with very visible badges, were at hand during the "raffle". -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
stephan@cup.portal.com (Stephen Derek Schaem) (05/25/89)
MNITEL NEW?!!! My grand mother has one for 3 years now... And I don't think their is any server around here(U.S.A). Put if you don't mind calling france, I could try to get you a minitel emulator so you can hook you amiga to the minitel. They have server wher you can buy commercial software by download!A was way to gt what you want... I think they have a connection with new york, so if you live theyr it wont be too mutch problem. Hope you where talking from the MINITEL from Alcatel!:-) Really nice portable temrinal... Almost all newspaper, airport, retaurent , movie theater, store, magazine...ETC has a server. It funny to see phone number in magazine so you can call their 'server' In the subway METRO you can go in without seen a had for a equivalent of a 900 number but on the minitel.. That replace the very few number of bbs.
stephan@cup.portal.com (Stephen Derek Schaem) (05/25/89)
Well it seem that they do a little better in europe.In the start of 1987 they at alot of nice thing on the A2000 at the SICOB. A harp demo using lazer been and projecting a harp image and a geant screen, you just a to do like playing the harp and of a the stereo sound came from to bgig speak and you could see your hand only add to the Harp pictures moving th cord... Also show a studio using the amiga, example of filght simulator using lazer disk.And some video aniamtion taking from some computer TV show. And all sort of 3d programs. 3 years ago... I even heard the word 2500 at the time, from someone how got to decide for a 500 waiting for the 2500. So the LA show was that bad:-( Have you seen the SGI show last october? I think that was the best show EVER for indroducing a new computer!They spend a couple million for it... That's only a 4 year compagnie.