rg20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rick Francis Golembiewski) (11/23/88)
Does anyone know if the product will support Apple Talk (after all since it has some hardware [ie Mac Roms] it's possible to put a few other apple type hard ware things on it...), and how about a plug for a Mac Drive (making the data transfer problem a lot more solvable...). Also Does anyone know if there will be a version that is usable on the 1000? As for memory, granted that Mac needs continuous memory, but I also know that many of the expansion RAM out there is continuous (ie. my starboard has a 2MB block from 00200020 to 0040000), so I see no reason why an emulator couldn't have an option to use expansion RAM as the Mac's RAM, while running in Slow Mem (and possibly some of fast mem, depending on the size of the emulator). It would be nice to have Mac compatibility, since Macs are heavily supported here at CMU, but a 512K Mac is nearly useless (in fact I believe that most of that memory would be taken up by the emulator+finder...) In any case I'm interested in anything that anyone knows about this emulator... +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Disclaimer: Me? Post That, impossible I never post anything... | | TypetoYouLater(Everyone); --> "functional Good bye".... | | Rick Golembiewski [ Pronunciation is half the Battle, spelling the other] | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
FUCHS@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Ira Fuchs) (12/19/88)
What can anyone tell me about a MAC emulator available (or soon to be?). How good a job does it do (functionality, performance, etc.). How is it integrated with Amiga capabiliites? Can one run multiple "MAC" tasks simultaneously or does the machine "become" a MAC? Is this a commercial product ? Is it running on any other machines (e.g ATARI)? Is this a product for which a good attorney will be necessary (i.e. lawsuits from Cupertino)?
FUCHS@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Ira Fuchs) (12/30/88)
======================================================================== 14 What can anyone tell me about a MAC emulator available (or soon to be?). How good a job does it do (functionality, performance, etc.). How is it integrated with Amiga capabiliites? Can one run multiple "MAC" tasks simultaneously or does the machine "become" a MAC? Is this a commercial product ? Is it running on any other machines (e.g ATARI)? Is this a product for which a good attorney will be necessary (i.e. lawsuits from Cupertino)?
FUCHS@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Ira Fuchs) (12/30/88)
What can anyone tell me about a MAC emulator available (or soon to be?). How good a job does it do (functionality, performance, etc.). How is it integrated with Amiga capabiliites? Can one run multiple "MAC" tasks simultaneously or does the machine "become" a MAC? Is this a commercial product ? Is it running on any other machines (e.g ATARI)? Is this a product for which a good attorney will be necessary (i.e. lawsuits from Cupertino)? What can anyone tell me about a MAC emulator available (or soon to be?). How good a job does it do (functionality, performance, etc.). How is it integrated with Amiga capabiliites? Can one run multiple "MAC" tasks simultaneously or does the machine "become" a MAC? Is this a commercial product ? Is it running on any other machines (e.g ATARI)? Is this a product for which a good attorney will be necessary (i.e. lawsuits from Cupertino)?
11TSTARK@GALLUA.BITNET (Timothy Stark) (02/23/89)
Hello Users:
I am looking for MAC roms for MAC emulation. I heard that Readysoft
plans to sell MAC emulation for Amiga computer. It said that I should
have to buy MAC roms in order to run MAC emulation. Where can I get
MAC ROMS for it? Price? Company? Address?
Thanks for your cooperation.
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-ba@m-net.UUCP (Bill Allen) (02/24/89)
Timothy Stark, Wash. DC writes: >I am looking for MAC roms for MAC emulation. I heard that Readysoft... Pick up a copy of Computer Shopper. I've seen a few companies that buy/sell used Macs and offer Mac ROMS at popular prices. My question is Which Ones to buy? I'd rather buy my Mac ROMS now incase they "accidently" become unavailable or the price increases. Which ROMS is ReadySoft's Macker suppose to need/use? -- --------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: ba@m2-net.UUCP (Bill Allen Beogelein) Organization: M-NET, Ann Arbor, MI ---------------------------------------------------------
scott@applix.UUCP (Scott Evernden) (02/26/89)
In article <8902230048.AA26774@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> 11TSTARK@GALLUA.BITNET (Timothy Stark) writes: > I am looking for MAC roms for MAC emulation. I heard that Readysoft >plans to sell MAC emulation for Amiga computer. It said that I should >have to buy MAC roms in order to run MAC emulation. Where can I get >MAC ROMS for it? Price? Company? Address? There are 2 places I know of, and they both advertise in Computer Shopper. One is Pre-Owned Electronics in MA, and the other is Shreve Electronics in FL. I don't have their addresses handy, but get Computer Shopper and look in the classifieds near the back. Max 128K ROMS are $135-150; the 64K ROMS (which ReadySoft's AMAX can use, but you'd be wasting your money) are under $50 or so. The 128K prices seem to be rising quickly, and availability might be a problem. I bought mine mailorder from Shreve, and the phone guy said he only had 7 left and had shipped 14 the previous day. AMAX is delayed now until April. -scott
samir_siddiqui@brains.uucp (Samir Siddiqui) (03/17/89)
Mac Emulator:
Does anyone out there have any info on the Mac Emulator for the Amiga by
ReadySoft? Or could someone from ReadySoft fill me in? Thanks!
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=============================================================================gaynor@galley.cis.ohio-state.edu (james e. gaynor) (03/22/89)
In article <4281@brains.uucp> samir_siddiqui%brains@iisat writes: >Mac Emulator: > > Does anyone out there have any info on the Mac Emulator for the Amiga by >ReadySoft? Or could someone from ReadySoft fill me in? Thanks! >-- There is a comprehensive article in the first issue of Amiga Plus about AMaxx (the Mac Emulator). Some basics: $200 cost (w/out Mac ROMs) and should come out in April (my roommate called ReadySoft to verify this). Plugs into the floppy drive port, either the one on the Amiga itself, or the extender port on your external. Contains a Mac Drive port. Supposedly has beaten the memory problem (emulator is tricked into thinking space between chip and fast mem is permanently allocated, rather than nothing). Cannot make Mac noice, other than sysbeep (no samples). Runs Hypercard, Multifinder, MacWrite 5.0, and lots of other good stuff. Most problems are with game software (which Ami does better anyway). Oh yeah, it translates Imagewriter codes into Epson codes, so you don't have to buy an Imagewriter to print out. Sounds good - my roomie is on the waiting list already... -=- ============================================================================== | Jim Gaynor..."The Vampire Lestat" UseNet: gaynor@cis.ohio-state.edu | | The Ohio State University - Dept. of Philosophy, Dept. of Computer Science | >> "Women are meant to be loved, not to be understood." -Oscar Wilde <<
manes@cs.odu.edu (Mark Manes) (03/22/89)
In article <40065@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> james e. gaynor <gaynor@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes: >In article <4281@brains.uucp> samir_siddiqui%brains@iisat writes: >>Mac Emulator: >> >> Does anyone out there have any info on the Mac Emulator for the Amiga by >>ReadySoft? Or could someone from ReadySoft fill me in? Thanks! >>-- I have heard some disturbing news. I have heard that the Canadian developer who did Dragon's Lair is very very very unhappy with ReadySoft, and if these are the same folks who are doing the Mac emulator it may be in trouble. -mark=
jacobson@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (06/04/89)
I wanted to add my experiences the last few hours with my Amax Macintosh emulator It is indeed a real Mac emulator as we have all been told. So far all my Mac software works on it with out any problems (a few minor things which I will mention in a moement). I am in fact logged on at this moment on my Amiga, running Versaterm Pro, on my Amax. The software seems to run just fine, no big problems. Minor things: even though the command key (cloverleaf and option keys) are supposed to be supported. I don't find them in my keymap. For some reason this part of my keyboard is not recognized. I have the older B2000 (US Amiga 2000) with old keyboard. Don't know yet if that could be the reason, but the manual claims the cloverleaf key is the 'Amiga' key. So this does not work right. So for example when I try to do key commands, commonly using the clover leaft in Versaterm like a cloverleaf Q (same as menu quit) this does not work. Have to use the menu only. Also the program refused to write over the original Versaterm parameter file even though I told it to like I do on my Mac at work. So there are minor differences (bugs???) but it works well and I am happy. The file transfer software works great, breaking up into 3 disks so the Amiga can read and make into one disk that Amax can use. Also the minitransfer disk mode works (what you have to do to make the first mini system disk to boot before you can run the Amax software to recombine your 3 disks into one that you first split up on your Mac) I had access to an older 800 K Mac external drive but it did not work right with Amax. It seems many third party, as well as the older tan external 800K drives don't work properly with Amax, so beware. There are fixes for the 3rd party drives (ie add a 3K resitor to the Amax box), but this did not work with my older Apple 800 K Mac drive. Thus I had to do the 3 disk transfer method. Overall impression is that the emulator is faster than my mac at work. It seems too be a good emulator, and so far I have not found anything that will not work in my productivity software. Russ jacobson Illinois Geological Survey :wq
jacobson@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (06/05/89)
Now that I have had time to play with the Mac emulato. The problem I mentioned with the cloverleaf equivalent keys actually ended up being some incompatability of verstaterm which had to do with how its defines the command menu key equivalents. The menu keyboard command keys are there on other applications like wordperfect, MacDraft, etc. I too have had no luck like the earlier poster a week ago in getting it to print out to my epson LX-800 in the Image Writer mode. The OS seems to do something, puts up the requester with the cancellation message and that is it. My mouse pointer is stil active so I don't seem to have a lockup or crash as described by the other person. But my menus, and other activity are dead while "it waits to print" I can only move the pointer. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so is it fixable???? Not that I need much printing since the output will not be as good as an imagewriter (distorted by the difference in printers I have read). But I would like to get hard copy occasionally. Good copy will involve transfers to work and my real Mac and Laserwriter. I have found that with my 1 MEG 2000 I don't have enough memory left with System 6.0 or higher to run Superpaint 2.0 (requires system 6). So if anyone is like me and likes that paint package on their Mac, you will need more than a 1 MEG Amiga to run it in emulation mode. I am working on Hypercard with my 1 MEG system. I make a minifinder disk and am able to get it up at least and running, but it is confused about the home stack (or where it is) so I will have to make a copy of the original hypercard disk I guess so it won't be confused. I don't have a machine with 1 Meg chip ram yet, but supposedly Hypercard will run because of mapping out of the memory between chip and fast ram that the software does. Will report more as I work on it. Russ Jacobson
jacobson@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (06/05/89)
Well I finally have Hypercard up and running on my 1 MEG A2000. The trick was as I suspected that I should use system 4.2 which allows me to make a minifinder disk with Hypercard as the only icon/file in the mini finder. If I do this I seem to have plenty of ram, and Hypercard runs just fine. Of course this will cause some minor trouble as the mini finder I am using with the 4.2 system has a limited selection of fonts (to conserve memory). Ideally if you want lots of fonts in your Hypercard font menu you will want more memory. I may be limited in other ways, but all the stacks I tested worked just fine. So in the final analysis I am pleased with Amax. It is a true good Mac emulator. It does what I wanted which makes me happy. The only problem is I still cannot print from any application to my epson 9 pin printer, allow the manual says I should. I get from lockups (with a mouse arrow that is still mobile) to messages from the likes of WordPerfect saying I have an error, and then it gracefully goes back to the program. Well I don't want to really use my printer much given my already mentioned laserwriter II on my SE at work. At least I can now do Mac work at home even if I still must print it at work. If anyone figures out the problem with epson printers and Amax I sure would like to here however. Russ Jacobson
echarne@orion.cf.uci.edu (Eli B. Charne) (06/06/89)
In article <45600065@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> jacobson@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > [...] > >I have found that with my 1 MEG 2000 I don't have enough memory left >with System 6.0 or higher to run Superpaint 2.0 (requires system 6). >So if anyone is like me and likes that paint package on their Mac, >you will need more than a 1 MEG Amiga to run it in emulation mode. > I thought Amax would only use 512k maxiumum of the Amiga's memory. Is this incorrect? If so, what are it's capabilities? -Eli -- Bitnet: zebcharne@uci.bitnet Internet: echarne@cf.uci.edu
morrison@sundae.DAB.GE.COM (Tom Morrison) (06/06/89)
About a week ago, I received a message from a friend who got a message from
a friend who... regarding the MAC ROM's. The message was about a company
(C.E.K.A) that had cloned the 128k MAC ROM's and was selling an emulator for
the ST based on this chip set. The article went on the say that the
company intended to possibly market similar products for the Amiga and IBM
compatibles. Is this general knowledge or is there a great deal of interest
in posting the data in this article?
BTW - The article is a May 5, 1989 article from something called the
ST Report Online Magazine (V 3 # 86) published by R.F. Mariano which is
apparently some sort of ST BBS. I've tried to reach Mr. Mariano a time
or two, but have been unsuccessful.
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Voice: +1 904 239 2980 Daytona Beach, FL 32015dlm@druwy.ATT.COM (Dan Moore) (06/09/89)
In article <2027@ge-dab.GE.COM>, morrison@sundae.DAB.GE.COM (Tom Morrison) writes: > (C.E.K.A) that had cloned the 128k MAC ROM's and was selling an emulator for > the ST based on this chip set. The article went on the say that the > company intended to possibly market similar products for the Amiga and IBM > compatibles. A couple of weeks after this was published a retraction was published. It seems C.E.K.A is really a kid who just wanted his 15 minutes of fame. He told lots of people about how great his product was, promissed to send out demos, etc. But there was no product to send out. There are two Macintosh Emulators for the ST. Neither company is planning to release an Amiga version. > BTW - The article is a May 5, 1989 article from something called the > ST Report Online Magazine (V 3 # 86) published by R.F. Mariano which is > apparently some sort of ST BBS. ST Report is a "news magazine" distributed on BBS's and some of the commercial networks. It's the "National Enquirer" of ST computer magazines, lots of rumors very few of which are even close to reality. Mariano just isn't a very good reporter. Dan Moore AT&T Bell Labs Denver dlm@druwy.ATT.COM