kelso@mimsy.UUCP (Stephen Kelley) (06/13/89)
After a little more experimentation on my system I *definately* think they have a memory management problem. Hey!! How about that for a sequel - MemCity? SiMem??? (;-) You (the memory(bus?) master) lay out memory maps that SimProgs build on. As the "system" grows parity errors, power "brownouts" & the dreaded "spikes" can be introduced. Hmmmm... Lots of possibilities there.... Anyway, my setup is a 2 floppy + 4 (3 mounted) partition hard drive A2000 w/ 1M fast + 1M chip (actually 1/2M chip - chubby(not fat) Agnes). If I open & leave open the 3 windows in the path to SimCity (on the hard drive, ofcourse), then click on the icon, then... Nothing. If I close the two of them I don't need it will work. **But**, if I've saved more than one game, then start up SimCity and click on either the SimCity tool icon or any of the saved game project icons, again, nothing. *However*, if I rename all the saved game icon files but one I want to play, it will again work. Sounds (& looks) like they need and take every byte of chip mem the grubby litte Simms can find... I think the reason my system works at all is that I use fastmemfirst which puts my harddisk buffers et al in my expanded mem. -- Real: Stephen Kelley, Welch Library, Johns Hopkins Univ. Internet: stevek@welch.jhu.edu
jdm@gryphon.COM (John Mesiavech) (06/15/89)
Joining into this thread a little late, just wanted to report my own
personal experiences with Maxis's Sim City program.
My system:
A2000
A2620 w/2MB RAM
Microbotics Hardframe-2000 with 2 hard drives attached.
3 (yes, 3!) floppy drives, DF0:, DF1: and DF2:.
The only special setups I do in the Startup-Sequence on the hard drive is
leaving OUT the FastmemFirst program (ie, I don't run it atall).
SimCity works fine from the original disk, or from the hard drive
if I have the original disk in any drive.
The copy protection is of the key disk sort.
Now, this is at variance with many of the experiences here, and I think the
culprit is FastMemFirst.
Back when I was running an A1000 with 1MB, if I used the FastMemFirst progra,
many programs, both PD and commercial, would bomb.
Without it, they worked.
Now, on this A2000, not running FastMemFirst causes no problems.
To all those with SimCity:
Take out the call to FastMemFirst in your startup-sequence. It may work.
John
P.S> Having a CLI running at the same time as Sim City in the above setup
shows 50K chip mem free.
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0-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-0disd@hubcap.clemson.edu (Gary Heffelfinger) (06/15/89)
> > To all those with SimCity: > Take out the call to FastMemFirst in your startup-sequence. It may work. For what it's worth, I too do not run FastMemFirst in my startup, and have had very few problems with running SC off of my hard disk. > > > John > > P.S> Having a CLI running at the same time as Sim City in the above setup > shows 50K chip mem free. Sounds like someone doesn't know which structures do not need to be in CHIP RAM. Its not that graphically and aurally complex that it should necessary to put so much of it in CHIP. Gary -- Father of Kathryn Leigh Heffelfinger ------ disd@hubcap.clemson.edu ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 8 lbs, 9 ounces, and 20 inches of neat stuff.