stan@teroach.phx.mcd.mot.com (Stan Fisher) (06/09/89)
YO Commodore, are you listening?? RSVP? I've just switched over to a nice fast (16ms) 158Mb SCSI drive on my 2090a. Really screams (diskperfs max on reads of over 720k/sec.) Couple of problems though, like the Seagates (though not quite as bad) the drive takes about a 1/2 second too long to initialize/spin up and the 2090a times out and wants a Workbench floppy inserted. This naturally requires me to reboot (soft) and all comes up fine. Also, now that I'll be needing to back up much more data, a streamer would be REAL nice, right? Not on the 2090's though, I'm told it can't never happen. Also, I moved the little LED wires over to the pair of stake pins for SCSI LED on the 2090a, and it just barely lights the thing, is that normal? I understand (have been told) that CBM is going to do a 2091 half card that fixes all the sh*ty things wrong or missing with the 2090's. So here comes the point of all this rambling.... **Medium Heat FLAME ON*** Is CBM going to have firmware/PAL/driver changes for the 2090a that'll make it work right? It would seem REAL feasable to fix some of this crap on the 2090a! I'm gonna be real pissed if I have to do Yet ANOTHER controller upgrade just to get the things that should have been on the first 2090s! I already dumped my 2090 for a 2090A, will I have to do that again? How hard can it be to get the 2090A to wait longer for a READY from the damn drive?? boot from FFS?? support SCSI tape?? eliminate DMA contention in 16 color highres overscan?? **Flame to simmer** I know what some would say... "buy a hardframe". Not a bad idea.. that fixes all but the streamer support, at least for now, and Microbotics says that'll be addressed "in the future". Stan Fisher - stan@teroach.phx.mcd.mot.com - asuvax!mcdphx!teroach!stan Motorola Microcomputer Division, Tempe, Arizona - (602) 438-3228
deraadt@enme3.ucalgary.ca (Theo Deraadt) (06/10/89)
In article <11041@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com> stan@teroach.phx.mcd.mot.com (Stan Fisher) writes: > Also, now that I'll be needing to back up much more data, a streamer >would be REAL nice, right? Not on the 2090's though, I'm told it can't >never happen. ^^^^^ ever (sp) From looking at the 1.3 manuals, and mention of scsi.device, it seems that C-A is going to support talking to any device on the scsi bus if you know it's id#. In exactly that way, it would be easy to hook up a scsi QIC tape drive and backup onto it, if the software was there, right? I would not be so quick to say never. At least the scsi part of the 2090 is well documented. <tdr. Theo de Raadt CPSC student Calgary, Alberta, Canada (403) 289-5894
stan@teroach.UUCP (Stan Fisher) (06/20/89)
In article <1498@cs-spool.calgary.UUCP>deraadt@enme3.UUCP (Theo Deraadt) writes: >In article<11041@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com>stan@teroach.phx.mcd.mot.com (I) write: >> Also, now that I'll be needing to back up much more data, a streamer >>would be REAL nice, right? Not on the 2090's though, I'm told it can't >>never happen. > ^^^^^ ever (sp) Just looked up 'never' in Webster's.. and... yup, I spelled it right. 8^) whatta ya call this?... poetic license?? Yeah, that's it. ;^} > >From looking at the 1.3 manuals, and mention of scsi.device, it seems >that C-A is going to support talking to any device on the scsi bus if >you know it's id#. In exactly that way, it would be easy to hook up a >scsi QIC tape drive and backup onto it, if the software was there, right? > >I would not be so quick to say never. At least the scsi part of the 2090 >is well documented. > <tdr. >Theo de Raadt CPSC student Calgary, Alberta, Canada >(403) 289-5894 Sorry, but if you'd look again, you'd see that I was "TOLD it can't never happen.". That's different than making the claim myself. Commodore customer support (and I'm useing the term 'support' VERY loosely) told me this when I questioned them on the use of scsi direct stuff i.e. tape on the 2090(a). They said it would however be supported on a new card called the 2090b OR the 2091 (depends on which day you call them), a half slot scsi/st506 card redesign of the 2090. BTW, where in which 1.3 manuals did you find scsi.device references?? Stan Fisher - stan@teroach.phx.mcd.mot.com - asuvax!mcdphx!teroach!stan Motorola Microcomputer Division, Tempe, Arizona - (602) 438-3228
dak@ut-emx.UUCP (Donald A Kassebaum) (06/20/89)
At Devcon, I asked about scsi direct support. It is currently in the scsi driver for the new controller and someone is adding the scsi direct support for the 2090/2090a scsi driver. The only question is when. I think you will see it in v1.4. Remember that it is software changes, not hardware changes to support scsi direct. Dak