[comp.sys.amiga] setcpu & noclick

dwl10@uts.amdahl.com (Dave Lowrey) (07/12/89)

A while ago, someone mentioned that the new (1.5) version of setcpu
would stop df0: from clicking.

Well, it doesn't on my "stock" 2500 (chinon drive, I think).

Has anyone gotten this to work?

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lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (07/12/89)

In <606@cpsc6b.cpsc6a.att.com>, crs@cpsc6b.cpsc6a.att.com (Chris (Nyuck! Nyuck!) Seaman) writes:
>> [ comments about SetCPU ]
>
>It works for both my internal drives on my 2500 (both drives are 'stock'
>CBM drives).  Unfortunately, since it also patches the Workbench screen
>into a Fastbench screen, I can't use HandyIcons or MyMenu :-(.  Still a
>GREAT program, though.  Many thanks, Dave (Haynie, that is)!

Now is the time to patch HandyWB with something like NewZap. Change all
instances of 'Workbench' to 'Fastbecnh'. It may work for MyMenu too.

-larry

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daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (07/12/89)

in article <7crY02GO3d4p01@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, dwl10@uts.amdahl.com (Dave Lowrey) says:

> A while ago, someone mentioned that the new (1.5) version of setcpu
> would stop df0: from clicking.

> Well, it doesn't on my "stock" 2500 (chinon drive, I think).

You need four things for the no-click patch to work:

	1.  An A2500 or '030 based Amiga
	2.  Kickstart 1.3, preferably in ROM (it will work from disk, but
	    it'll hurt your startup times).
	3.  "SetCPU FASTROM" in your startup-sequence, or another similar
	    place, to install the patched ROM code.  Make sure it's
	    SetCPU V1.5; previous versions didn't do this.
	4.  The correct kind of drive.  They tell me that some drives don't
	    work with this patch.  I didn't invent the patch, I just put it
	    in the general SetCPU patch facility because I found it worked
	    just dandy on my systems.

You can tell if you've passed steps 1..3 correctly by nothing the title of
your Workbench screen.  If it says "FastBench release 1.3 ..." you've got
all the software installed correctly; the rest is up to your drive.

> Has anyone gotten this to work?

This is only the second report I've seen of it not working correctly.

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) Seaman) (07/13/89)

dwl10@uts.amdahl.com (Dave Lowrey) writes:
> A while ago, someone mentioned that the new (1.5) version of setcpu
> would stop df0: from clicking.

It does by default, on certain drives, though it (the 'noclick' feature)
can be disabled with the NOPATCH option.

> Well, it doesn't on my "stock" 2500 (chinon drive, I think).
> Has anyone gotten this to work?

It works for both my internal drives on my 2500 (both drives are 'stock'
CBM drives).  Unfortunately, since it also patches the Workbench screen
into a Fastbench screen, I can't use HandyIcons or MyMenu :-(.  Still a
GREAT program, though.  Many thanks, Dave (Haynie, that is)!

> "What is another word  |  Dave Lowrey    | [The opinions expressed MAY be
>  for 'Thesaurus'?"     |  Amdahl Corp.   | those of the author and are not
>                        |  Houston, Texas | necessarily those of his
>    Steven Wright       |  amdahl!dwl10   | employer]   (`nuff said!)

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daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (07/13/89)

in article <606@cpsc6b.cpsc6a.att.com>, crs@cpsc6b.cpsc6a.att.com (Chris (Nyuck! Nyuck!) Seaman) says:
> Summary: Works for me...

> It works for both my internal drives on my 2500 (both drives are 'stock'
> CBM drives).  Unfortunately, since it also patches the Workbench screen
> into a Fastbench screen, I can't use HandyIcons or MyMenu :-(.  Still a
> GREAT program, though.  Many thanks, Dave (Haynie, that is)!

You probably could use HandyIcons or MyMenu by either patching the "Workbench"
string in either to "Fastbench", and you can definitely patch the "Fast"
strings back to "Work" (or anything else, for that matter) in SetCPU.  Though
it occurs to me this has pointed out a conceptual flaw in programs that
look for the "Workbench" text string in the title of a screen in order to
find the Workbench screen.  That sounds just plain wrong.  Seems to me the test
for the Workbench-ness of a screen, if you must, should go like this:

	if ((screen->Flags & SCREENTYPE) == WBENCHSCREEN)
	    Excellent();
	else
	    Bogus();

Or something like that.  Hopefully the need to do this at all goes away in
the 1.4 OS.

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a121@mindlink.UUCP (Daniel Carreras) (07/16/89)

I found that runing HandyIcons before SETCPU it works just fine. And if you
insist on runing it after, use the switch NOPATCH on SETCPU.
Daniel

douglee@becker.UUCP (Doug Lee) (07/16/89)

In article <7282@cbmvax.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes:
>in article <7crY02GO3d4p01@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, dwl10@uts.amdahl.com (Dave Lowrey) says:
>
>> A while ago, someone mentioned that the new (1.5) version of setcpu
>> would stop df0: from clicking.
>
>> Well, it doesn't on my "stock" 2500 (chinon drive, I think).
>
>You need four things for the no-click patch to work:
>
Stuff about no-click and SetCPU deleted.
>	4.  The correct kind of drive.  They tell me that some drives don't
	    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	    Unfortunately, the Chinon isn't (unless there's a jumper I don't
	    know about. Ones which work are later model Matsushita, with
	    plastic as opposed to metal disk carrier and the NEC FD1035, 
	    found in the first production run of 1000's (The noisy ones
	    which I'm now glad to have for the nockicking thing:-)).
	    Of course there may be many more. The early Matsushita drives
	    as used in most 1000's and early 500/2000's do NOT work.
			 <<<Doug Lee>>>
			 douglee@becker
>
>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Systems Engineering) "The Crew That Never Rests"
>   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: D-DAVE H     BIX: hazy
>           Be careful what you wish for -- you just might get it
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	    At least you're the right guy to ask :-)

a763@mindlink.UUCP (Scott Busse) (07/18/89)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    "        Unfortunately, the Chinon isn't (unless there's a jumper I don't
            know about. Ones which work are later model Matsushita, with
            plastic as opposed to metal disk carrier and the NEC FD1035,
            found in the first production run of 1000's (The noisy ones
            which I'm now glad to have for the nockicking thing:-)).
            Of course there may be many more. The early Matsushita drives
            as used in most 1000's and early 500/2000's do NOT work.
                         <<<Doug Lee>>>
                         douglee@becker
    "

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I have two Chinon drives in my Amiga 2500, which are silenced by running
SetCPU V1.5. Possibly someone out there is using the NOPATCH option, which
I believe, cancels the "noclick" function.

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