STU00@vx.acss.umn.edu (Stuart Stanley) (07/14/89)
Hello all,
After playing with installbeep last night, (Very impressive) I think
I figured out an addition that might be, er, fun. Here it is:
1) Allow multiple sounds files on the command line. (or maybe a
file that contains a list of sounds)
2) The program would then load 1 sound file (Thus saving memory)
and then wait for a beep command.
3) When a beep arrives, it would do that sound and then begin
loading a random second sound from the list. If another
beep comes in before the new sound is loaded, it would
use the old one. Otherwise it would finish, dispose of
the first sounds memory and go back to 2.
*note* If a sound file can't be opened, it is 'x'ed off the list
and another is tried. A little check should detect the
absence of any sounds. This could prompt a requester saying
sound files missing or just default the program to 'beep'
mode.
I would think that this would be kind of a fun option. You could
specify a whole directory full of sounds and get a different one
each time you make a mistake. What does everyone think? In
particular, what does the Author think. (Are you cringing in horror
at the thought or is this a possible idea).
Cheers,
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In article <19643@louie.udel.EDU> STU00@vx.acss.umn.edu (Stuart Stanley) writes: > >Hello all, > > After playing with installbeep last night, (Very impressive) I think >I figured out an addition that might be, er, fun. Here it is: > > [ ideas deleted ] > Cheers, >/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - v - - - - - - - \ >| x Stuart Stanley | " " | >| x STU00@UMNACVX.BITNET | O O | [ signiture trimmed ] installbeep has a bug. It crashes the machine when too many sounds are queued up to be played. To cause this bug, simply force to produce alot more sounds then there are channels available. 2 ways to do this: first installbeep 1) at the cshell prompt type cat <CR>, then hit ^G many times fast - bang! 2) with your favorate editor create a file that has mostly ^G in it and type it to the screen - bang. Other then this, it is a fun program, as for the poster's suggestions I have only this to say - a with all small, fun, utility programs serious thought must be given to commparing usefulness to codesize. IMHO, a utility like this that takes more then ~10k is just too big to enjoy, as anything other then a run-once oddity. asaph asaph@taurus.bitnet or asaph@math.tau.ac.il
ejkst@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Eric J. Kennedy) (07/21/89)
In article <1053@taurus.BITNET> asaph%math.tau.ac.il@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Zemach Asaph) writes: >installbeep has a bug. It crashes the machine when too many sounds are queued >up to be played. To cause this bug, simply force to produce alot more sounds I haven't seen this. When I try that, the extra beeps are produced as screen flashes. >Other then this, it is a fun program, as for the poster's suggestions I have Fun? I think it's very useful. I'm a touch typist, as are many other people here. I'm not always looking at the screen to see the "beep". >only this to say - a with all small, fun, utility programs serious thought >must be given to commparing usefulness to codesize. IMHO, a utility like >this that takes more then ~10k is just too big to enjoy, as anything other Well, I'm open to suggestions. I haven't seen anything that takes less room but does the same job. (A simple beep is okay, in fact maybe better than a digitized sample. Right now I'm using the "boink" sound from Amicus 10, but that gets old fast.) >then a run-once oddity. Run-once. In my startup-sequence. -- Eric Kennedy ejkst@cisunx.UUCP
wdimm@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (William Dimm) (07/22/89)
I didn't catch the beginning of this discussion of Installbeep, but
I gathered that it is a program to create a 'beep' instead of a screen
flash. I have been using a program called 'beepit' which does the
same thing, and is rather small (2344 bytes). I don't remember where I
got it from, but I believe it is PD, so I have included it below.
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endlphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (07/23/89)
In <603@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>, wdimm@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (William Dimm) writes: >I didn't catch the beginning of this discussion of Installbeep, but >I gathered that it is a program to create a 'beep' instead of a screen >flash. I have been using a program called 'beepit' which does the >same thing, and is rather small (2344 bytes). I don't remember where I >got it from, but I believe it is PD, so I have included it below. That's one I whipped up a few years ago. It too will crash if a 'beep' is happening when another beep comes along. Comes from not having a re-entrant routine. I initialized the audio device outside the routine that replaces DisplayBeep(), and of course the program assumes it can use the audio device. I never did fix it up. If anyone is interested, I could mail the source (it's up on Compuserve). Personally, I use a little program called 'setbeep' that allows a digitized sound. My Amiga now 'drips' at me. -larry -- "So what the hell are we going to do with a Sun?" - Darlene Phillips - +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
AXDRW%ALASKA.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Don R. Withey) (07/25/89)
> From: asaph@taurus.bitnet - Date: 20 Jul 89 11:01:21 GMT > In article <19643@louie.udel.EDU> STU00@vx.acss.umn.edu (Stuart Stanley) write s: >> >>Hello all, >> >> After playing with installbeep last night, (Very impressive) I think >>I figured out an addition that might be, er, fun. Here it is: >>| x Stuart Stanley | " " | >>| x STU00@UMNACVX.BITNET | O O | All I can say about your request Stuart is; We'll look into it. As we wrote InstallBeep as a task, we cannot call the DOS functions in the normal way. Also the code that loads the sound is not resident in memory, it goes away after you run InstallBeep, to try and keep the thing a reasonable size. > installbeep has a bug. It crashes the machine when too many sounds are queued > up to be played. To cause this bug, simply force to produce alot more sounds > then there are channels available. 2 ways to do this: > first installbeep Well, since I'm one of the authors. I might be of some help. First question, what version are you using? There are three versions that have gone out to the door. 1.0 was posted to a BBS around our area, it may have reproduced ;-) Anyway, DO NOT USE THIS VERSION!!! It has many bugs, one of which was the posibility of it GURUing when there are no sound channels available. 1.1 was posted to the same BBS, to comp.binaries.amiga, and I guess Fred Fish got this one from Bob Page or something. We actually didn't want this version to go to Fred yet, as we were not absolutly positive that it was bug free.... No big deal, it's stable. It does have one known bug though. The task name is hosed, due the the fact that we forgot to allocate the memory for it (when the stack whent away...). So if you get a list of the current tasks, this one may look sort of strange. 1.2 was posted only to a BBS, the only change is that the above bug has been fixed. We wanted to make a couple more changes to the program before we post it to the real world again. 1.3 should have a lower sound channel priority, it seems that many programs don't handle the posibility that their sound channel might be stolen. So PlayBeep steals the channel, then gives it back to the system. The program it stole the channel from hangs. > asaph > asaph@taurus.bitnet or asaph@math.tau.ac.il If anyone reading this has a reasonable request that they would like to see InstallBeep handle or do. Please send me a mail message at the address below. Don ------------------------------------------------------------- Snail Mail: Don R. Withey, 3700 East 65th Ave, Anch, AK 99507 Phone: 907-786-1074 (work), 907-344-4057 (home) Email: Bitnet: axdrw@alaska.bitnet BIX: dwithey University of AK Anch, Computing & Technology Services (CATS ;-) -------------------------------------------------------------
ejkst@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Eric J. Kennedy) (07/27/89)
Here's an idea for installbeep: How about letting it do what the title makes you think it does? Namely, installing a beep. A nice, simple, non-digitized beep. It might be nice to include it as an option, thereby letting the user save some ram. (duration, volume, and pitch as options, perhaps?) Lest this reply sound sarcastic, I really do like the program, and it's in my startup-sequence. I've just had some trouble finding appropriate sound samples. What sound *should* your text editor make when you goof? A gunshot? Explosion? Scream? Theme to Star Trek? "I'm sorry Dave, but I can't do that"? -- Eric Kennedy ejkst@cisunx.UUCP
iddos@TAURUS.BITNET (07/31/89)
In article <1053@taurus.BITNET> asaph@libra.UUCP (Zemach Asaph) writes: [re: proposals for additions to playbeep] >installbeep has a bug. It crashes the machine when too many sounds are queued >up to be played. To cause this bug, simply force to produce alot more sounds >then there are channels available. 2 ways to do this: >first installbeep >1) at the cshell prompt type cat <CR>, then hit ^G many times fast - bang! >2) with your favorate editor create a file that has mostly ^G in it and type >it to the screen - bang. 3) Run amigabasic. Type CR at the editor's last line. This produces a normal beep and crashes the system. Amaze your friends. >only this to say - a with all small, fun, utility programs serious thought >must be given to commparing usefulness to codesize. IMHO, a utility like >this that takes more then ~10k is just too big to enjoy, as anything other >then a run-once oddity. Isn't that too extreme? Mac users have this beep utility built in their system. They like it, I guess. I wonder what people use as their beep? My beep is in too bad a taste to be desribed here. Ido (The ID) Amin - iddos.taurus.BITNET -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ido (The Id) Amin iddos@taurus.BITNET | | | +---------- Is the virtual memory of a unicorn a physical device? ------+