KENNEDAM%WWPS@dupont.com (Tony Kennedy) (07/22/89)
Hello all, I've been downloading archive files from our VAX to my amiga and I've run into some really neat problems. Here's what happens. I'm runnin Handshake 2.8a, DMouse 1.1 with the lineart dmouse-handler, and ConMan. WB 1.2. When I'm downloading with Kermit (File type set to binary) and the screen blanks, if the DL isn't done yet and I move the mouse...GURU. I figure that it's something with the lineart handler, but I don't know. I haven't tried putting the original handler back yet. Another one is, if I screw up and don't get the receiving path name right in the kermit file requester, it just locks up. The close window gadget won't respond. ;^( The only way I can get out is reboot. HAs anybody seen anything like this, also? Any suggestions an what to do. I don't like to disable dmouse, I'd like to screen to blank on some of those long downloads. And it's a real pain to reboot because I mistyped a pathname. ...Tony >-----------------------------------------------------////---------------< | Tony Kennedy | Any resemblance | //// AMIGA | | Project Engineer | between these and my |\\\ //// The computer | | Setpoint Inc | employers opinions is | \\\/// For the best | | | pure coincidence. | \\\/ of us. | >------------------------------------------------------------------------< | INTERNET : kennedam%wwps%dupont.com@relay.cs.net | >------------------------------------------------------------------------< | "Don't tie your sister up with dental floss." My girlfriend to the | | children she's babysitting | >------------------------------------------------------------------------<
jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright) (07/23/89)
In article <20198@louie.udel.EDU> KENNEDAM%WWPS@dupont.com (Tony Kennedy) writes: | When I'm downloading with Kermit (File type set to binary) and the | screen blanks, if the DL isn't done yet and I move the mouse...GURU. I figure | that it's something with the lineart handler, but I don't know. I haven't | tried putting the original handler back yet. I had lots of problems with DMouse guruing the system when "unblanking" the screen. I replaced it with QMouse, and the quru problem went away. I like some things of each program better than the other, but I definately didn't like the crashes. I never used the lineart-blanker-handler thingy, and I didn't tie the crashes to Handshake, although that is possible. I know it wasn't restricted to downloads only. -- Jim Wright jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu
grwalter@watmath.waterloo.edu (Fred Walter) (07/24/89)
In article <20198@louie.udel.EDU> KENNEDAM%WWPS@dupont.com (Tony Kennedy) writes: > I'm runnin Handshake 2.8a, DMouse 1.1 with the lineart dmouse-handler, >and ConMan. WB 1.2. > When I'm downloading with Kermit (File type set to binary) and the >screen blanks, if the DL isn't done yet and I move the mouse...GURU. This used to happen to me all the time (I had DMouse 1.0, not 1.1). My fix was to chuck DMouse and use QMouse instead. I'm fairly certain that the problem lies with Handshake, but I like Handshake (and I can live with rebooting after Handshake'ing). fred
OHA101%URIACC.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (F. Michael Theilig) (07/25/89)
Neat problems? Ok.
Handshake 2.8a? I have 2.12a and I thought it was the most recient.
Simple problem here: Don't use the lineart handler.
As for the path name problem, use the ARP file requester. You *DO*
have ARP.Library, don't you?!?
/* F. Michael Theilig OHA101 at URIACC.Bitnet
"There is no Dark Side of the Moon...
in fact it is all dark." */ehoogerbeets@rose.waterloo.edu (Edwin Hoogerbeets) (07/25/89)
In article <20198@louie.udel.EDU> KENNEDAM%WWPS@dupont.com (Tony Kennedy) writes:
% I'm runnin Handshake 2.8a, DMouse 1.1 with the lineart dmouse-handler,
% and ConMan. WB 1.2.
% HAs anybody seen anything like this, also? Any suggestions an what to
% do. I don't like to disable dmouse, I'd like to screen to blank on some of
% those long downloads.
I've noticed this as well. I have an easier method of getting it to
guru, though: Start dmouse. Run handshake. Wait some time. When the
screen unblanks by touching the mouse, gomf will be waiting for me.
I think it has something to do with interference between dmouse and the
background task that Handshake starts up to do the blinking cursor.
Suggestions: quit dmouse and physically turn the monitor off, play a
game or something in the background (multitasking yeah!), or better yet,
use dnet.
Edwinscotth@corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry) (07/25/89)
I am using Dmouse (the latest posted version with the lineart hack) with
Handshake 2.12a (and GOMF3.0 & WB1.3 & ARP1.3 & WShell & Arexx & MyMenu &
interlace/overscan & etc), and I haven't had any gurus traceable to Dmouse
or Handshake in a long time. PS, it's an early model 1000 w/out halfbrite.
I don't have any problems, and I have lots of handlers & processes running
out there at all times (my system is on permanently, except for the very
occasional power failure). Hmm, I always start Handshake as a WB process
from MyMenu, so it might be a CLI startup problem? Just my $0.02 worth.
---
--
Scott Henry <scotth@corp.sgi.com>
#include <std_disclaimer.h>raz%kilowatt@Sun.COM (Steve -Raz- Berry) (07/26/89)
In article <20198@louie.udel.EDU> KENNEDAM%WWPS@dupont.com (Tony Kennedy) writes: > When I'm downloading with Kermit (File type set to binary) and the >screen blanks, if the DL isn't done yet and I move the mouse...GURU. I figure >that it's something with the lineart handler, but I don't know. I haven't tried >putting the original handler back yet. I have seen this, but I am not using the handler you mentioned (I've got one that needs to be released before 1.4 comes out and breaks Dmouse). You will see the same problem with just blanking the screen. I not sure who to blame, but nothing else has a problem with Dmouse... > HAs anybody seen anything like this, also? Any suggestions an what to >do. I don't like to disable dmouse, I'd like to screen to blank on some of >those long downloads. And it's a real pain to reboot because I mistyped a >pathname. I don't use Handshake. I'd like to, but I got scared off when I saw that it didn't like Dmouse. I haven't tried using the newest Dmouse (v1.13 available RSN, just ask Matt), but I still fear that it wouldn't work. Have you tried VLT? --- Steve -Raz- Berry Disclaimer: It wasn't me! I was volatilizing my esters. UUCP: sun!kilowatt!raz ARPA: raz%kilowatt.EBay@sun.com KILOWATT: sun!kilowatt!archive-server archive-server%kilowatt.EBay@sun.com
raz%kilowatt@Sun.COM (Steve -Raz- Berry) (07/26/89)
In article <20361@louie.udel.EDU> OHA101%URIACC.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (F. Michael Theilig) writes: > Simple problem here: Don't use the lineart handler. If it was only that simple. I have seen the GURU with only the simple blank screen. It's somthing much more complicated. > /* F. Michael Theilig OHA101 at URIACC.Bitnet --- Steve -Raz- Berry Disclaimer: It wasn't me! I was volatilizing my esters. UUCP: sun!kilowatt!raz ARPA: raz%kilowatt.EBay@sun.com KILOWATT: sun!kilowatt!archive-server archive-server%kilowatt.EBay@sun.com
nsw@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (Neil Weinstock) (07/26/89)
In article <15361@watdragon.waterloo.edu> ehoogerbeets@rose.waterloo.edu (Edwin Hoogerbeets) writes: >In article <20198@louie.udel.EDU> KENNEDAM%WWPS@dupont.com (Tony Kennedy) writes: >% I'm runnin Handshake 2.8a, DMouse 1.1 with the lineart dmouse-handler, >% and ConMan. WB 1.2. >% HAs anybody seen anything like this, also? Any suggestions an what to >% do. I don't like to disable dmouse, I'd like to screen to blank on some of >% those long downloads. > >I've noticed this as well. I have an easier method of getting it to >guru, though: Start dmouse. Run handshake. Wait some time. When the >screen unblanks by touching the mouse, gomf will be waiting for me. I had similar problems with a program I was writing interacting poorly with Dmouse 1.10. My problem was the same as Edwin's: Dmouse would blank the screen, then I would move the mouse and Guru city. Well, my program was doing some copper list hanky panky and peaking into IntuitionBase, and I was eventually able to fix the problem through extremely anal use of the LockIBase() call. Looking at the Dmouse source never revealed to me exactly why my fix worked. Oh, I should mention that to the best of my knowledge, my program was doing nothing that should have caused a Guru. I only "fixed" it because I felt that Dmouse compatibility was important. Turns out, though, that the new version is "better" than the old one in other ways... Still a little puzzled why it worked, /.- -- .. --. .- .-. ..- .-.. . ... .- -- .. --. .- .-. ..- .-.. . ...\ / Neil Weinstock | att!cord!nsw | "One man's garbage is another \ \ AT&T Bell Labs | nsw@cord.att.com | man's prune danish." - Harv Laser / \.- -- .. --. .- .-. ..- .-.. . ... .- -- .. --. .- .-. ..- .-.. . .../
OHA101%URIACC.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (F. Michael Theilig) (07/27/89)
On 25 Jul 89 17:33:51 GMT you said: >In article <20361@louie.udel.EDU> OHA101%URIACC.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (F. > Michael Theilig) writes: >> Simple problem here: Don't use the lineart handler. > > If it was only that simple. I have seen the GURU with only the simple >blank screen. It's somthing much more complicated. > I have been using Handshake 2.12a and DMouse 1.07 (sans lineart) for quite a while. I have had NO PROBLEMS. There must be a problem with the newer DMouse. (Matt, this will look real bad to the deity comitte ;-) >> /* F. Michael Theilig OHA101 at URIACC.Bitnet > > > >--- >Steve -Raz- Berry Disclaimer: It wasn't me! I was volatilizing my esters. >UUCP: sun!kilowatt!raz ARPA: raz%kilowatt.EBay@sun.com >KILOWATT: sun!kilowatt!archive-server archive-server%kilowatt.EBay@sun.com /* F. Michael Theilig OHA101 at URIACC.Bitnet "There is no Dark Side of the Moon... in fact it is all dark." */
cug@db2.CS.Concordia.CA (User Group) (07/27/89)
In article <20198@louie.udel.EDU> KENNEDAM%WWPS@dupont.com (Tony Kennedy) writes: >do. I don't like to disable dmouse, I'd like to screen to blank on some of >those long downloads. And it's a real pain to reboot because I mistyped a >pathname. > > ...Tony Well I've never used Dmouse or Conman, but I do use Handshake with Mach II and I've never had any problems with them. Mach II has a screen blanker with variable time setting as well as a whole bunch of other neat things, check it out. ...Peter
) Seaman) (07/29/89)
OHA101%URIACC.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (F. Michael Theilig) writes: < On 25 Jul 89 17:33:51 GMT you said: < >OHA101%URIACC.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (F. Michael Theilig) writes: < >> Simple problem here: Don't use the lineart handler. < > < > If it was only that simple. I have seen the GURU with only the simple < >blank screen. It's somthing much more complicated. < > < >Steve -Raz- Berry < I have been using Handshake 2.12a and DMouse 1.07 (sans lineart) < for quite a while. I have had NO PROBLEMS. There must be a problem < with the newer DMouse. (Matt, this will look real bad to the deity < comitte ;-) < < /* F. Michael Theilig OHA101 at URIACC.Bitnet I don't know what the problem might be, but it doesn't show up on my 2500, running dmouse 1.10, Handshake 2.12a, SetCPU 1.5 (with patches enabled), MyMenu, VirusX 3.2, and DropCloth. I get no Guru's from Handshake. I did get consistent Guru's from dmouse with the lineart handler when bringing back the screen by pressing a key instead of moving the mouse (in ANY screen).
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 89 12:06 PDT
From: Montgomery Kosma <kosma@ALAN.LAAC-AI.Dialnet.Symbolics.COM>
Subject: Re: Handshake w/ dMouse problems :^(
To: "Eagle::amiga-relay%udel.edu"@KAHUNA.LAAC-AI.Dialnet.Symbolics.COM
In-Reply-To: Your message of 27 Jul 89 11:43 PDT
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Well I've never used Dmouse or Conman, but I do use Handshake with Mach II
and I've never had any problems with them. Mach II has a screen blanker
with variable time setting as well as a whole bunch of other neat things,
check it out.
...Peter
well, based on some previous net discussion, a couple of months back I
switched from Mach II to QMouse, and found QMouse to be more reliable,
smaller, and in some ways more powerful than Mach II. I'd encourage
everyone who can get a hold of it to try it out. The best thing about
QMouse is what I *didn't* notice--I don't think I've ever had a problem
with qmouse interacting with another piece of software, while with Mach
II there were a couple times when I'd had to turn it off to get
something else to run (I don't recall exactly...it was a while back.)
monty kosma