grassm@eecs.nwu.edu (Mark O. Grasse) (09/06/89)
I need help with a printer set-up for my Amiga 2000. I have access to an Apple Imagewriter printer and no documentation for it. I need to know: a. what type of cable do I need. Are they hard to find? b. Do I connect to the serial or parallel port? c. Is this printer Postscript capable? I have the 1.3 printer driver for it. Is there any other info anyone has on set-up or tips? thanks in advance. grassm@delta.eecs.nwu.edu
tknight@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (T.Knight - Computing Services) (09/08/89)
In article <10260019@eecs.nwu.edu>, grassm@eecs.nwu.edu (Mark O. Grasse) writes: > > I need help with a printer set-up for my Amiga 2000. > > I have access to an Apple Imagewriter printer and no documentation for it. > I need to know: > a. what type of cable do I need. Are they hard to find? > b. Do I connect to the serial or parallel port? > c. Is this printer Postscript capable? > > I have the 1.3 printer driver for it. Is there any other info anyone > has on set-up or tips? I'd like to know myself if you can run an Imagewriter from the Amiga. Our dealer up here says if its made by apple it won't work with the Amiga. Anyone in netland know if this is true?
jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright) (09/10/89)
In article <6295@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> tknight@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (T.Knight - Computing Services) writes: | In article <10260019@eecs.nwu.edu>, grassm@eecs.nwu.edu (Mark O. Grasse) writes: | > I have access to an Apple Imagewriter printer and no documentation for it. | > I need to know: | > a. what type of cable do I need. Are they hard to find? The Imagewriters I use have the Apple "connector-from-hell" 8 pin DIN. It could be hard to find. I'd just make the cable myself. | > b. Do I connect to the serial or parallel port? Serial. The default is 9600bps, but some settings can be changed with DIP switches in the printer. | > c. Is this printer Postscript capable? No. | > I have the 1.3 printer driver for it. Is there any other info anyone | > has on set-up or tips? | I'd like to know myself if you can run an Imagewriter from the | Amiga. Our dealer up here says if its made by apple it won't work with | the Amiga. Anyone in netland know if this is true? Of course it won't work. That's why Commodore included a printer driver for it. (That's sarcasm -- get a new dealer.) Actually, I think the Imagewriter is marketed by Apple and not made by Apple. I can't remember at the moment who (I thought) makes them. -- Jim Wright jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu
khawkes@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Kurt Hawkes) (09/11/89)
In article <6295@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> tknight@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (T.Knight - Computing Services) writes: >In article <10260019@eecs.nwu.edu>, grassm@eecs.nwu.edu (Mark O. Grasse) writes: >> >> I need help with a printer set-up for my Amiga 2000. >> >> I have access to an Apple Imagewriter printer and no documentation for it. >> I need to know: >> a. what type of cable do I need. Are they hard to find? >> b. Do I connect to the serial or parallel port? >> c. Is this printer Postscript capable? >> >> I have the 1.3 printer driver for it. Is there any other info anyone >> has on set-up or tips? > I'd like to know myself if you can run an Imagewriter from the >Amiga. Our dealer up here says if its made by apple it won't work with >the Amiga. Anyone in netland know if this is true? The Apple ImageWrite II works nicely with the Amiga. I had and Apple before purchasing my Amiga. The only problem with the ImageWrite is that it has to be used through the serial port. At first I used a switch box to select modem/printer. Then I invested $45 for a parallel to serial converter box to hook up the imagewriter to the parallel port. I do recommend the 1.3 driver for the ImageWriter. As for cable, buy an apple //e super serial to imagewriterII cable (db25 to round9). You may need a gender changer for the db25 end... I made my own cable, cannot remember. And The Imagewriter is not Postscript compatable. khawkes@beach.cis.ufl.edu -- -- // Kurt Hawkes // khawkes@beach.cis.ufl.edu University of Florida \\ // \X/ Amiga 2000
dbl@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (David Lawson) (09/11/89)
In article <6295@watdcsu.waterloo.edu>, tknight@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (T.Knight - Computing Services) writes: > In article <10260019@eecs.nwu.edu>, grassm@eecs.nwu.edu (Mark O. Grasse) writes: > > > > I need help with a printer set-up for my Amiga 2000. > > > > I have access to an Apple Imagewriter printer and no documentation for it. > > I need to know: > > a. what type of cable do I need. Are they hard to find? > > b. Do I connect to the serial or parallel port? > > c. Is this printer Postscript capable? > > > > I have the 1.3 printer driver for it. Is there any other info anyone > > has on set-up or tips? > I'd like to know myself if you can run an Imagewriter from the > Amiga. Our dealer up here says if its made by apple it won't work with > the Amiga. Anyone in netland know if this is true? I don't have one myself but a good friend does and I help him set it up, here's the scoop on the 3 questions: a: He had REALLY hard time getting a cable, finally had to have one made for the thing. I don't know if it is because of his 1000s port sexuality or just stubbornness on the ImageWriters behalf. b: The image writer is a serial printer (like all Aplle printers I believe) You'll need to set the prefs up et al. c: I cannot say for sure but I don't think so. I went through the manual pretty thouroghly and never saw any mention, of course, I wasn't looking for PostScript either. The apple dealer was feeding you a line about not working with an Amiga, I have seen them work and they work very well. If you get the cable and need the prefs set up, email to me and I'll get the settings from my friend and reply. David Lawson GTA West Virginia University dbl@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu
consp11@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (consp11) (09/11/89)
In article <6295@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> tknight@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (T.Knight - Computing Services) writes: >In article <10260019@eecs.nwu.edu>, grassm@eecs.nwu.edu (Mark O. Grasse) writes: >> >> I need help with a printer set-up for my Amiga 2000. >> >> I have access to an Apple Imagewriter printer and no documentation for it. >> I need to know: >> a. what type of cable do I need. Are they hard to find? >> b. Do I connect to the serial or parallel port? >> c. Is this printer Postscript capable? >> >> I have the 1.3 printer driver for it. Is there any other info anyone >> has on set-up or tips? > I'd like to know myself if you can run an Imagewriter from the >Amiga. Our dealer up here says if its made by apple it won't work with >the Amiga. Anyone in netland know if this is true? I know for a fact that you can connect an ImageWriter II to the Amiga; I did it myself for a while before I could afford a printer. You need a cable with a Macintosh-style mini-DIN configuration to a 25-pin parallel or serial connector (either way works). You can order them from Redmond Cable, but I don't remember their address. Mine cost me about $15-$20. Good luck to you. (Oh, yeah - the printing quality sucks. Sorry, but it's a fact of non- scalable fonts.) --Brett Kessler
fiddler%concertina@Sun.COM (Steve Hix) (09/12/89)
In article <10260019@eecs.nwu.edu>, grassm@eecs.nwu.edu (Mark O. Grasse) writes: > > I need help with a printer set-up for my Amiga 2000. > > I have access to an Apple Imagewriter printer and no documentation for it. Free, I hope. You didn't say which version of the ImageWriter (it makes a difference). > I need to know: > a. what type of cable do I need. Are they hard to find? Depends on which version IW you got: ImageWriter I : Plain DB25 - DB25. The printer's connector is female. ImageWriter II: DB-25 - mini DIN8 connector. Some dealer that handles various differing brands of computers may have a bunch of cables made up and shrink-wrapped. Look for an "Apple //e to ImageWriter <what you got> printer cable". > b. Do I connect to the serial or parallel port? Serial only. Apple hasn't sold a parallel printer for years...at least since before they gave up on the Apple ///. > c. Is this printer Postscript capable? Only if you have a program that does its own PostScript processing and then writes direct graphics commands to the printer to display it. No. > I have the 1.3 printer driver for it. Is there any other info anyone > has on set-up or tips? In another life I wrote various manuals at Apple, including some printer setup stuff...why, I don't know; I'm a software writer. The Imagewriter I/II is a 9-pin serial dot matrix printer. Similar to the old C. Itoh ProWriter series, Epson FX, etc. The best you can get out of it is 144 dpi. It has six or so built-in fonts...which all look like 9-pin printer fonts. Output from a Mac looks much better than what you get from the same printer hooked up to an Apple //--, 'cause the Mac uses the printer as a graphics output device. (Some software lets you select a lower-quality draft mode when you're in a hurry.) Unless it's free, or very cheap, you can do as well or better with newer and less expensive printers. (I'm just using mine until I can afford a PostScript-compatible laser printer...I hope soon, though: the printer is a pre-Imagewriter [different case, same innards] that was once an engineering prototype.) The ImageWriter I was made for Apple by Tokyo Electric (C.Itoh), as is the IW2 (probably). ------------ "...I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing: and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress, while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralization." - Petronius Arbiter, 210 B.C.
hgm@ccvr1.uucp (Hal G. Meeks) (09/12/89)
In article <1491@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu> jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu.UUCP (Jim Wright) writes: >| > I have access to an Apple Imagewriter printer and no documentation for it. >| > I need to know: >| > a. what type of cable do I need. Are they hard to find? > >The Imagewriters I use have the Apple "connector-from-hell" 8 pin DIN. It >could be hard to find. I'd just make the cable myself. Actually, the original Imagewriter I has either a 9 pin or standard 25. Either easily obtainable at your local RS. > >DIP switches in the printer. I believe a standard serial cable will work. If you want to play it safe, then buy Apple's Imagewriter cable for the AppleII line. It will work. > >| > I have the 1.3 printer driver for it. Is there any other info anyone >| > has on set-up or tips? >| I'd like to know myself if you can run an Imagewriter from the >| Amiga. Our dealer up here says if its made by apple it won't work with >| the Amiga. Anyone in netland know if this is true? > >Actually, I think the Imagewriter is marketed by Apple and not made by >Apple. I can't remember at the moment who (I thought) makes them. Hardware is C Itoh. Very reliable printer. Makes a good printer to pick up cheap used. Software is Apple. But it should work fine on an Amiga. You will have to reconfigure the dip switches to get it to work right. Sorry, can't help you here. It's been a long time since I've played with one. --hal --------------- hgm@ccvr1.ncsu.edu "Do you know why television is called a medium? netoprhm@ncsuvm.bitnet Because nothing is well done." Fred Allen
bobl@pro-graphics.cts.com (Bob Lindabury) (09/12/89)
Network Comment: to #4016 by tknight@watdcsu.waterloo.edu The Imagewriter II works just fine with the Amiga and in color to boot! You MUST get an Imagewriter to Amiga Serial cable or hack one together yourself. If you just look on your workbench extras disk at the printer drivers, you would see the Imagewriter drive there. Boy, I guess some dealers are just idiots when it comes to knowing anything about the Amiga. I can't believe a dealer would say "If it's made by Apple it won't work with the Amiga". The Imagewriter and Imagewriter II are serial printers. The Imagewriter II supports color printing. -- Bob _________________________ Pro-Graphics 201/469-0049 __________________________ UUCP: crash!pro-graphics!bobl | ProLine: bobl@pro-graphics InterNet: crash!bobl@pro-graphics.cts.com | CServe: 70347,2344 ARPA/DDN: crash!pro-graphics!bobl@nosc.mil | AppleLink: Graphics3D ___________ ____________ Raven Enterprises - 25 Raven Ave. Piscataway, NJ 08854
aycock@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (John Aycock) (09/13/89)
In article <6295@watdcsu.waterloo.edu>, tknight@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (T.Knight - Computing Services) writes: > In article <10260019@eecs.nwu.edu>, grassm@eecs.nwu.edu (Mark O. Grasse) writes: > > I have access to an Apple Imagewriter printer and no documentation for it. > > I need to know: [etc...] > I'd like to know myself if you can run an Imagewriter from the > Amiga. Our dealer up here says if its made by apple it won't work with > the Amiga. Anyone in netland know if this is true? YES, the Imagewriter printers work. When I got my Amiga, I had one left over from my Apple ][ (ugh!) system, and it worked great. It does have to hook up to the serial port, though, so I ditched it in favor of my modem. As I recall, I had Apple's cable plugged into it, then a null modem adapter and various esundry converters to get it to plug into the back of my 2000. ::: John //\|_||\| ...{alberta|ubc-cs|utai}!calgary!aycock \/ \/| || |
esker@abaa.uucp (Lawrence Esker) (09/13/89)
In article <6295@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> tknight@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (T.Knight - Computing Services) writes: > I'd like to know myself if you can run an Imagewriter from the >Amiga. Our dealer up here says if its made by apple it won't work with >the Amiga. Anyone in netland know if this is true? Oh, gawd. Shoot the dealer (figuratively speaking) for spreading such drain pamaged bropaganda about the Amiga. The device driver system of the Amiga allow ANY printer, no matter WHO makes it, to work if you have a driver written for it. Maybe the dealer meant: "If its made for the Amiga, it won't work with any Apple products". Obviously and Apple only dealer.
pierre@pro-graphics.cts.com (Peter Altamore) (09/20/89)
Network Comment: to #4216 by hgm@ccvr1.uucp To the poor soul struggling with the Imagewriter //... if you have the proper cable, all you need to do is flip one dip switch and it'll work like a charm. Just lift off the top cover (as if you were going to change the ribbon) and locate the two sets of dip switches in the lower left corner. The one you want is switch 2-3 (switch #3 on the 6 switch dip on the right _______________________________________________________________________________ ProLine: pro-generic!pro-graphics!loginID | Pro-Graphics 24hrs UUCP: crash!pnet01!pro-generic!pro-graphics!loginID | 201/469-0049 3/12/24 ARPA/DDN: crash!pnet01!pro-generic!pro-graphics!loginID@nosc.mil _______________________________________________________________________________