UD158339@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Glen) (09/27/89)
What is the deal with H-P and the Amiga? From what i understand H-P
is interested in buying out the machine. Is there any truth to these roumors,
and what effect will it have on all of us Amiga owners?
Color me curious and confused...
Glencmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (09/28/89)
In article <2837UD158339@NDSUVM1> UD158339@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Glen) writes: > What is the deal with H-P and the Amiga? From what i understand H-P >is interested in buying out the machine. Not *Amiga*, HP bought *Apollo*. Sure they both start with "A", I could how you might get confused. :-) --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. "If I were driving a Macintosh, I'd have to stop before I could turn the wheel."
keithh@atreus.uucp (Keith Hanlan) (09/28/89)
In article <2837UD158339@NDSUVM1> UD158339@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Glen) writes: > What is the deal with H-P and the Amiga? From what i understand H-P >is interested in buying out the machine. Is there any truth to these roumors, >and what effect will it have on all of us Amiga owners? I'd be more than surprised. HP just bought Apollo and there was a recent announcement of a US$4000 workstation along with some impressive graphics workhorses. I'd fail to see where HP would position the Amiga - there's no link between a $2000 amiga and their $4000 workstation. Also doesn't HP also have PC-oriented micros?
jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright) (09/28/89)
In article <125372@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> cmcmanis@sun.UUCP (Chuck McManis) writes: | In article <2837UD158339@NDSUVM1> UD158339@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Glen) writes: | > What is the deal with H-P and the Amiga? From what i understand H-P | >is interested in buying out the machine. | | Not *Amiga*, HP bought *Apollo*. Sure they both start with "A", I could | how you might get confused. :-) No, really, HP saw Apollo's Aegis OS and decided they now want an A-machine with a *real* OS. [Note: no :-) regarding Aegis] -- Jim Wright jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu
sn15+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steve Neas) (09/28/89)
| In article <2837UD158339@NDSUVM1> UD158339@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Glen) writes: | > What is the deal with H-P and the Amiga? From what i understand H-P | >is interested in buying out the machine. | I read in some magzine, Info I think, that there is a rumor circulating about an H-P buyout of Commodore itself. Personally, I don't think anything will come of it. - Steve -
phao172@ut-emx.UUCP (Randy M. Roberts) (09/29/89)
In article <1568@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu> jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu.UUCP (Jim Wright) writes: >In article <125372@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> cmcmanis@sun.UUCP (Chuck McManis) writes: > >No, really, HP saw Apollo's Aegis OS and decided they now want an A-machine >with a *real* OS. > >[Note: no :-) regarding Aegis] > >-- >Jim Wright >jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu I used to work daily on Apollos. There Just-Like-Real-Unix DOMAIN-IX SR10.1 is anything but Just-Like-Real-Unix. I hope Apollo (Uh, er HP) gets on the ball and puts a real unix on the machine. BTW, AEGIS is being phased out in favor of DOMAIN-IX, better late than never. Regards, Randy -- -- Randy M. Roberts phao172@emx.utexas.edu
a3@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Allen) (09/29/89)
From what I have heard it is just a roomer based on a caption type suggesting
something like "pictured here on the HP-Amiga Screen" I have never found anyone
who knew anything more detailed.
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V/moynihan_r@apollo.HP.COM (Robert Moynihan) (09/29/89)
* phao172@emx.utexas.edu (Randy M. Roberts) writes: > I used to work daily on Apollos. There Just-Like-Real-Unix DOMAIN-IX > SR10.1 is anything but Just-Like-Real-Unix. I hope Apollo (Uh, er HP) > gets on the ball and puts a real unix on the machine. BTW AEGIS is > being phased out in favor of DOMAIN-IX, better late than never. Interesting. Our SysV.3 unix environment is SVID compliant, and you say it's not Just-Like-Real-Unix. If it's SVID compliant, it IS real unix. Maybe the problem is that the flavor of unix you're USED to isn't Just-Like-Real-Unix. Oh well, who can say. But if AT&T's testing procedures say Domain/OS is real unix, it's real unix. Oh, by the way, at SR10.n, there is no such thing as DOMAIN-IX. There is only Domain/OS, which can contain AEGIS, SysV.3, or BSD4.3, or any combination you choose. At SR10.n, unix is part of the kernal, so the unix commands are not 'wrapped around' AEGIS. No matter what the salesreps of our Sometimes Uninformed Neighbors might say. I've heard nothing about HP buying Commodore, but if they did, I'd love it. I want to buy an Amiga 2000HD, and I'd love to get it at employee's discount prices. I was going to get a Vectra, but once you've gotten used to a workstation, why would you ever want to use a 'mere' PC again? (Multi-tasking is addictive.) Bob Moynihan Disclaimer: I don't speak for Apollo Systems Apollo Systems Division Division or for Hewlett-Packard Co. Hewlett-Packard Co. I only speak for myself.
cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (09/30/89)
In article <45ee2d75.d3a6@apollo.HP.COM> (Robert Moynihan) writes: ->Interesting. Our SysV.3 unix environment is SVID compliant, and you say ->it's not Just-Like-Real-Unix. If it's SVID compliant, it IS real unix. Then, in article <45ee8549.71d0@apollo.HP.COM> (Steve Rehrauer) writes: ->I suspect it would be easier for us (HP/Apollo) to bring the price of ->our products down to ~$3K than it would be for Commodore to bring the ->features of a ~$3K Amiga up to workstation standards, at least where ->networking & available "workstationish" software are concerned. The ->new HP/Apollo DN2500, for example of a "cheap" '030 box, is right at ->~$4K without a hard-disk. Interestingly enough, the Amiga 2500 (is that serendipity or what?) can (and does) run SVID compliant SysV.3, and similarly equipped to the DN2500 (you need to add the Hi-res mono monitor and ethernet card to the Amiga and a disk to the DN2500) it prices out fairly competitivly. (and I bet Commodore's margins are better because they already have a million Amigas out) They aren't as far away as you might think. --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. "If I were driving a Macintosh, I'd have to stop before I could turn the wheel."