pds@quintus.UUCP (Peter Schachte) (09/20/89)
I tried to mail this to jimm, but it bounced. Maybe others on the net are interested to comment: In article <4506@amiga.UUCP> jimm writes: >There are some open areas, though, and creative ideas are always welcome >(especially the ones that can be expressed in a few sentences ;^). I'm glad you said that, because I have a suggestion. It would be really nice if some later (1.4????) version of console windows supported copying text from earlier in the window (or another console window), like SNIPIT or TSNIP. But rather than (or in addition to) using the usual two-step copy/paste approach, how about using Xerox's one-step approach: if you press a modifier key (say ALT) while selecting the text, when you release the ALT key, the text is treated as if it was just typed. If you haven't selected anything when the key is released, nothing happens. (A little different than Sun's approach.) Using this approach, all you have to do is find what you want to insert, press the alt key with one hand and select the text to insert with the other, and release the alt. With the copy/paste approach, you find what you want to copy, select it, hit the copy key (or, worse, menu item), find where you want to insert it, click there, and hit the paste key. There's a big difference in the utility of the two approaches. I think this could be accomplished (with Commodities Exchange?) by mapping events in the following way: Left mouse goes down with ALT down: clear selection; begin selection Left mouse goes up with ALT down: put selection into cut buffer Mouse moves with ALT down: highlight selection ALT goes up with left mouse down: clear selection; clear highlight ALT goes up with left mouse up: paste selection; clear highlight -- -Peter Schachte pds@quintus.uucp ...!sun!quintus!pds
jimm@amiga.UUCP (Jim Mackraz) (09/21/89)
In article <1258@quintus.UUCP> pds@quintus.UUCP (Peter Schachte) writes:
)I tried to mail this to jimm, but it bounced. Maybe others on the net
)are interested to comment:
)It would be really nice if some later (1.4????) version of console
)windows supported copying text from earlier in the window (or another
)console window), like SNIPIT or TSNIP. But rather than (or in addition
)to) using the usual two-step copy/paste approach, how about using
)Xerox's one-step approach: if you press a modifier key (say ALT) while
)selecting the text, when you release the ALT key, the text is treated as
)if it was just typed. If you haven't selected anything when the key is
)released, nothing happens. (A little different than Sun's approach.)
)--
)-Peter Schachte
)pds@quintus.uucp
)...!sun!quintus!pds
Message received and forwarded to proper guy(s).
Nice one: I have a slightly different problem with sun-style. I clip
something I'm going to use again and again, and have to reach
for the mouse to paste it each time. At least you can do shift-rightbutton
rather than wait for the pig-slow menus to pop up, but I'd still
rather do a keyboard paste, which I think is what the new Amiga console
has today (in development-land).
We'll be sure to look at the suggested method; thanks for sending.
jimm
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Opinions are my own. Comments are not to be taken as Commodore official policy.fgd3@jc3b21.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe) (09/22/89)
From article <1258@quintus.UUCP>, by pds@quintus.UUCP (Peter Schachte): > It would be really nice if some later (1.4????) version of console > windows supported copying text from earlier in the window (or another > console window), like SNIPIT or TSNIP. But rather than (or in addition > to) using the usual two-step copy/paste approach, how about using > Xerox's one-step approach: if you press a modifier key (say ALT) while > selecting the text, when you release the ALT key, the text is treated as > if it was just typed. If you haven't selected anything when the key is > released, nothing happens. (A little different than Sun's approach.) That approach would work fine if you wanted to copy text from earlier in the window. But I can already do that with the shell by pressing the up arrow. It would be more useful to be able to copy text from one window and paste it in another. I don't see how you would do that with the modifier key approach. --Fabbian Dufoe 350 Ling-A-Mor Terrace South St. Petersburg, Florida 33705 813-823-2350 UUCP: ...uunet!pdn!jc3b21!fgd3
pds@quintus.UUCP (Peter Schachte) (09/30/89)
In article <756@jc3b21.UUCP> fgd3@jc3b21.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe) writes:
->From article <1258@quintus.UUCP>, by pds@quintus.UUCP (Peter Schachte):
copying text from a console window:
->> Xerox's one-step approach: if you press a modifier key (say ALT) while
->> selecting the text, when you release the ALT key, the text is treated as
->> if it was just typed.
->It would be more useful to be able to copy text from one window and
->paste it in another. I don't see how you would do that with the modifier
->key approach.
I guess I don't see the problem. When the ALT key goes up, the selected
text is forced into the input stream, as if it were typed. You
substitute a whole bunch of key down and key up events for the single
ALT key up event.
SNIPIT and TSNIP work now, only they don't use the one-step approach. I
don't see why they couldn't work this way. Maybe one of the authors
could comment?
--
-Peter Schachte
pds@quintus.uucp
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