merchant@dartvax.UUCP (01/25/87)
The most useful feature I have found with the Macintosh is the clipboard.
If one program does not do exactly what I want, usually two of them will.
(For example, Microsoft Chart and MacDraw) This is what I use Switcher
for, a fast way to run two programs at once and pass information between
them.
Does the Amiga have a clipboard equivalent, like the Macintosh, that is
(in theory) supported by all programs?
Please DON'T go posting things to the network. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE! Send mail or don't answer, fine, but DON'T POST THE ANSWER! It's
probably an ignorant question and I doubt that the Mac newsgroup wants to
see 600 replies to this and I doubt the Amiga newsgroup wants to see 600
answers to a question they already know.
--
"She's so good to me." Peter Merchant
merchant@dartvax.UUCPA_HINDS%HVRFORD.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (09/22/89)
Yes, its time for my annual *bit**ing about the lack of
developper support for the clipboard.device. Why can't I cut
something out of WordPerfect, and then paste it into CED, or Excellence!, etc?
Shouldn't we, the users, DEMAND the support from developpers?
ASCII files just don't cut it, and IFF files in the ram disk just aren't
as convenient either.
Heck, when I see my friends using the nameless one (Ma*intosh), and
the ease with which they can share any info. between all applications, I
get kind of upset that I can't do the same thing as transparently on my
machine. So, what gives? It's not that much extra work to put in
clipboard support?
Alexander HInds
A_HINDS@HVRFORDmaj1@tank.uchicago.edu (Major Robinson jr.) (09/26/89)
> Yes, its time for my annual *bit**ing about the lack of >developper support for the clipboard.device. Why can't I cut >something out of WordPerfect, and then paste it into CED, or Excellence!, etc? I have to agree that it would be nice if more applications implemented the clipboard features. I don't really understand why it is such a problem (I, myself, don't develop software for Ami). It seems that this is one area where the Amiga falls needlessly behind the Mac. Consider this simply my vote for supporting clipboard. >Alexander HInds >A_HINDS@HVRFORD -- Major Robinson jr. maj1@tank.uchicago.edu
jeh@elmgate.UUCP (Ed Hanway) (09/27/89)
In article <24643@louie.udel.EDU> A_HINDS%HVRFORD.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu writes: > > Yes, its time for my annual *bit**ing about the lack of >developper support for the clipboard.device. Why can't I cut >something out of WordPerfect, and then paste it into CED, or Excellence!, etc? Good question! I'm working on a program now which uses clipboard.device, and I was disappointed to find that I owned only one other program which supported it. What's this marvelous program, you ask? Notepad. Big deal. >So, what gives? It's not that much extra work to put in >clipboard support? Not any trouble at all, but you'd never know it from reading the docs.
andrew@teslab.lab.OZ (Andrew Phillips 289 8712) (09/27/89)
In article <24643@louie.udel.EDU> A_HINDS%HVRFORD.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu writes: > Shouldn't we, the users, DEMAND the support from developers? I agree that compared to the Mac, ClipBoard support on the Amiga is atrocious. It is up to users (and reviewers) to point this out to software developers. On the other hand developer support for ARexx is growing much more quickly than I anticipated, and ARexx provides MUCH more powerful inter-application communication than the ClipBoard does. Andrew. -- Andrew Phillips (andrew@teslab.lab.oz{.au}) Ph. +61 (Aust) 2 (Sydney) 289 8712
wfh58@leah.Albany.Edu (William F. Hammond) (10/03/89)
In a reply posting last week I wrote to agree with an earlier poster (whose
posting I've lost) that document preparation programs like editors and
word processors should make use of the Amiga's clipboard device. I said:
.>I agree. Please note that an editor that uses the clipboard does not
.>need to have a multi-windowing facility (i.e., does not need to reinvent
.>the wheel). You can open a document, take a clip, close that document,
.>and go to another to insert the clip. Editors that eliminate unnecessary
.>features are smaller.
There were two reply postings:
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.From: cna@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Na Choon Piaw)
.Date: 29 Sep 89 19:54:02 GMT
. . . .
.Not true. I find that most of the time, I use multiple windows in [ ] to
.read different parts of the same part, or even read multiple files side by
.side. (On the same screen) Besides, have you noticed that [ ] stores the
."cut" buffer between files? That means you can open a document, take that
.clip you want, close that document, and go to the one you want to add that
.clip.
. . . .
.Na Choon Piaw .cna@cory.berkeley.edu .piaw@ocf.berkeley.edu
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.
.From: a218@mindlink.UUCP (Charlie Gibbs)
.Date: 28 Sep 89 20:32:55 GMT
.
. I agree that clipboard support is a Good Thing, if only to
.shut up the Mac enthusiasts out there. Having said that, though...
.
. HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY SAY THAT MULTI-WINDOWING IS UNNECESSARY?
. . . .
.
.Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.UUCP
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First, let me say that my remarks were not intended to be directed at
any particular program. (Actually, I was thinking about a version of
"emacs" that is similar to the emacs on the local mainframe.)
I am certainly not opposed to having multiple windows and multiple
documents open at one time. (Where I said "multi-windowing", I should have
said "multi-document", and where I said "not necessary", I meant
"not necessary for quick cutting and pasting".) My point was that a small
simple editor capable of dealing with only one document at a time is fully
functional on the Amiga if it uses the clipboard device since the Amiga itself
enables one to open and view multiple documents via the system-provided
multi-tasking and multi-windowing.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------fgd3@jc3b21.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe) (10/03/89)
In article <2064@leah.Albany.Edu>, wfh58@leah.Albany.Edu (William F. Hammond) writes: > ...My point was that a small > simple editor capable of dealing with only one document at a time is fully > functional on the Amiga if it uses the clipboard device since the Amiga itself > enables one to open and view multiple documents via the system-provided > multi-tasking and multi-windowing. You really don't need the clipboard device to do that. I achieve essentially the same result with Ed by marking a block, writing it to RAM:block, shifting to the other window, and inserting file RAM:block. And Ed is about as stripped-down an editor as I would want to use. That's one reason I use it, in fact. Because it's small I can easily run additional copies to compare files, cut and paste between files, read several parts of the same file, etc. --Fabbian Dufoe 350 Ling-A-Mor Terrace South St. Petersburg, Florida 33705 813-823-2350 UUCP: ...uunet!pdn!jc3b21!fgd3