[comp.sys.amiga] reading Mac format disks on Amiga

usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) (09/28/89)

Does anyone know if it is possible to read a Macintosh format disk
using the built-in Amiga drive?  If so, what software is available to
do this?  I have read about the mac-2-dos package available, but it 
indicates that a mac drive is required.

For those interested, the reason I would like to do this is because at
school we have Macs connected to our network, so I could download 
information directly from the internet to the disks, and then hopefully
read them on the Amiga.

Thanks, Brett

Brett Harper
Michigan State University

harperb@frith.egr.msu.edu
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mark@xrtll.UUCP (Mark Vange) (10/02/89)

In article <4770@cps3xx.UUCP>, usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to read a Macintosh format disk
> using the built-in Amiga drive?  If so, what software is available to
> do this?  I have read about the mac-2-dos package available, but it 
> indicates that a mac drive is required.

Well, it could be really tricky!  Unfortunately, the Mac uses three
different speeds to write the disk.  These speeds vary according to the
cylinder number that is currently being accessed.  This means that there is
variable density information, and the width of the bit cell (the ammount of
time that valid data is under the read head, effectively) is not readily
understood by our hardware.

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pete@i-core.UUCP (Pete Ashdown) (10/04/89)

>From: mark@xrtll.UUCP (Mark Vange)
>
>In article <4770@cps3xx.UUCP>, usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes:
>> Does anyone know if it is possible to read a Macintosh format disk
>> using the built-in Amiga drive?  If so, what software is available to
>> do this?  I have read about the mac-2-dos package available, but it
>> indicates that a mac drive is required.
>
>Well, it could be really tricky!  Unfortunately, the Mac uses three
>different speeds to write the disk.  These speeds vary according to the
>cylinder number that is currently being accessed.  This means that there is
>variable density information, and the width of the bit cell (the ammount of
>time that valid data is under the read head, effectively) is not readily
>understood by our hardware.
 
The A-Max manual states that its FIVE rather than three speeds that the Mac
uses.  However, they also state that the Amiga can read two of these speeds.
They include a special program that allows you to format a 272K disk on the
Mac, transfer stuff on it, then it moves the data to sections of the disk
where the Amiga can read it through A-Max.  It works rather nicely.  I WISH I
COULD GO THE OTHER WAY THOUGH!!  Grrr...



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jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright) (10/05/89)

All of the talk so far has (understandably) centered on exchanging
*floppy* disks with the Mac.  What are the chances of reading Mac
hard drives?  I've got a few of these neat Syquest 44MB removable
hard drive systems around, and thought of hooking one up to my SCSI
controller on the Amiga.  Any chance of my being able to deal with
the Mac's (so-called) file system?  I'd love to be able to use the
Amiga for at least part of the software development cycle.

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