acm131@eric.ccs.northeastern.edu (Craig Scott Lennox) (11/02/89)
It means there are many more Mac II's in circulation!! ** A Proud Hoser ** Craig.
mjr@welch.jhu.edu (Marcus J. Ranum) (11/02/89)
I love my MacII. I use it to hold my coffee machine. After about the 200th "Sorry a system error has occurred" I reassigned it to its current duties. Of course, my Amiga is heading in the same direction - I am sick of braindead GURUs. --mjr(); -- He was in his room half awake, half asleep. The walls of the room seemed to alter angles, elongating and shrinking alternately, then twisting around completely so that he was in the opposite side of the room. "A trick of the light and too much caffeine," he thought. -Bauhaus
daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (11/02/89)
in article <3148@nigel.udel.EDU>, acm131@eric.ccs.northeastern.edu (Craig Scott Lennox) says: > It means there are many more Mac II's in circulation!! In that "more Mac IIs are circulating", perhaps. But I doubt that it implies that there are more Mac IIs, period. One reasonable explanation might be that the folks selling Mac IIs are upgrading to IIxs or, more likely, IIcs or IIcis. While Apple will let you upgrade a Mac II to a Mac IIx, that's a pretty expensive upgrade for 15% more speed (being kind) and the ability to read PS/2 disks. Unless the used Mac II market gets saturated, I'll bet it's much better to sell your Mac II and buy a newer MacII-something. One reason I like to have Amigas upgradable via add-ins, where possible, rather than board swaps. Of course, you can buy a decent Amiga system for the price of a Mac II -> Mac IIx upgrade... > ** A Proud Hoser ** > Craig. -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Systems Engineering) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Too much of everything is just enough
daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (11/03/89)
in article <1989Nov2.024147.15966@welch.jhu.edu>, mjr@welch.jhu.edu (Marcus J. Ranum) says: > I love my MacII. I use it to hold my coffee machine. > After about the 200th "Sorry a system error has occurred" I reassigned > it to its current duties. > Of course, my Amiga is heading in the same direction - I am sick of > braindead GURUs. I suppose lots of it depends on what you're doing with either machine. Our lab Mac IIc crashes far more often, with the one application it runs, than my office Amiga, which is running tons of different stuff all the time (even stuff I write myself, which is really tempting fate :-). The application on the lab machine is rather new, and I'd certainly expect these crashes to be much less frequent in the next release of that software. Despite the crashes, it's doing useful work. Now, my machine at home crashes constantly, but I'm actually writing the software there and causing the crashes, so that's to be expected under any OS without hardware memory protection. But I'd rather write for the Amiga OS than UNIX anyway. > --mjr(); -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Systems Engineering) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Too much of everything is just enough
mjr@welch.jhu.edu (Marcus J. Ranum) (11/03/89)
In article <8388@cbmvax.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes: >in article <1989Nov2.024147.15966@welch.jhu.edu>, mjr@welch.jhu.edu (Marcus J. Ranum) says: > >Now, my machine at home crashes constantly, but I'm actually writing the >software there and causing the crashes, so that's to be expected under any >OS without hardware memory protection. But I'd rather write for the Amiga >OS than UNIX anyway. > That's basically what I meant: I simply can't take a machine without hardware memory protection very seriously. For a machine that doesn't have it, the Amiga is my favorite, but I'll never consider it a serious development platform. Just as many people say "I can't imagine a machine without a multi-tasking OS" :-) I just have trouble trusting a machine that can get toasted by applications-level software. --mjr(); -- He was in his room half awake, half asleep. The walls of the room seemed to alter angles, elongating and shrinking alternately, then twisting around completely so that he was in the opposite side of the room. "A trick of the light and too much caffeine," he thought. -Bauhaus