C05089%AKRONVM.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (don) (10/16/89)
atari st ?? yes !! the amiga can run yet another computers software. i know, i know, who wants an atari when the own an amiga! i have found a program on bixs that allows our amiga to run atari software. I have not yet used it because i don't have the atari dos disk. To get to the point,i would like to know were i can get some atari st freeware. thanks ...... Iam on the list but if you want to send mail to me send it to: c05089@akronvm (i may send this program out but not until i first test it out)
C05089%AKRONVM.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (don) (10/23/89)
ok, ok, here it is the atari st for the amiga, understand you need a dos disk or what ever you call an atari st boot disk. I have not yet seen the program run atari software yet but a lot of people have left me mail begging for this program, so download at your own risk! p.s. you need uuencode and warp to get this one, and after uudecodeing it you must rename it i called it atari.warp and it should be atari.wrp! -----------------------cut-here----------------------------------------------- begin 644 atari.warp M5V%R<"!V,2XQ 5$]0 ! %0#P $\,1)Y, 0 ,Q(,, ,@#-$'P , M3ES] Z4$T!D%((" 0 / AP 3NK ^0=&'YDW<URP22-&3A@Y>0! ^B>3YLR: M.&_JM,DS9\^=/H,"U5D)5V%R<"!V,2XQ 0D]4 ! $ !@, "#] M"SA0(,&#!A,67(B0H<*&$!\F- 9787)P('8Q+C$ %43U $ 0 M& P (/T+.% @P8,&$Q9<B)"APH80'R8T!E=A<G @=C$N,0 4)/5 0 ! 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unhd (Layton C Cote) (10/23/89)
In article <2273@nigel.udel.EDU> C05089%AKRONVM.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (don) writes: >ok, ok, here it is the atari st for the amiga, understand you need a dos disk > (bla bla bla about the st) >p.s. you need uuencode and warp to get this one, and after uudecodeing it ^^^^^^^^ you meant uudecode, of course, right? >you must rename it i called it atari.warp and it should be atari.wrp! I tried multiple times to get this file to warp properly, but no luck... Has anyone managed to uudecode and warp write this properly? I tried uudecoding it both on our unix(VAX) system where it was posted and on ami, and the uudecoded files were both the same size, which was 32170 bytes. (fine so far) Next after the "short file" message from uudecodeing it, I renamed it to atari.wrp so warp would be happy. However it won't warp write past the first track, which is far too long(like 20000, or some ridiculous number). The first two tracks wrote fine though... Has anyone got this to warp write fine????? ( did want to check this out) -- ___ _ ---UUCP:uunet!unhd!lcc770--------/ //--------------------------| |-------- | ____ ___ / // /\ /\ /\ | /--\ /\ | | |\
sneakers@heimat.UUCP (Dan "Sneakers" Schein) (10/25/89)
In Message <1989Oct23.165531.18529@uunet!unhd>, lcc770@uunet!unhd (Layton C Cote) writes: >I tried multiple times to get this file to warp properly, but no luck... [....] > Next after the "short file" message from uudecodeing it, I renamed >it to atari.wrp so warp would be happy. However it won't warp write past >the first track, which is far too long(like 20000, or some ridiculous >number). The first two tracks wrote fine though... This is exactly the same results I got. I welcome a repost of a new copy but *PLEASE* not in comp.sys.amiga - use one of the other groups. Sneakers -- ___ Dan "Sneakers" Schein //// BERKS AMIGA BBS Sneakers Computing //// You've tried the rest, now try 2455 McKinley Ave. ___ //// the BEST! 80 Megs of 100% AMIGA West Lawn, PA 19609 \\\\ //// 24 hrs @ 215/678-7691 \\\\//// {pyramid|rutgers|uunet}!cbmvax!heimat!sneakers
jdm@gryphon.COM (John Mesiavech) (10/26/89)
In article <1989Oct23.165531.18529@uunet!unhd> lcc770@unhd.UUCP (Layton C Cote) writes: >In article <2273@nigel.udel.EDU> C05089%AKRONVM.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (don) writes: >>ok, ok, here it is the atari st for the amiga, understand you need a dos disk >> (bla bla bla about the st) > >>p.s. you need uuencode and warp to get this one, and after uudecodeing it > ^^^^^^^^ > you meant uudecode, of course, right? > >>you must rename it i called it atari.warp and it should be atari.wrp! > >I tried multiple times to get this file to warp properly, but no luck... >Has anyone managed to uudecode and warp write this properly? >I tried uudecoding it both on our unix(VAX) system where it was posted >and on ami, and the uudecoded files were both the same size, which was >32170 bytes. (fine so far) > Next after the "short file" message from uudecodeing it, I renamed Being that I've gotten it to unWarp properly, think that the "short file" message should be teling you something. Our Xenix UUDECODE and a native Amiga UUDECODE both had no troubles with the file, which came out to 32039 bytes. Looks like you got some extra junk there. At any rate, it doesn't work. Took it to a local store that sells both Amiga and Atari ST, tried it out with an ST PD disk that they had. The disk was bootable (saw it boot on a 520ST). When the emulator booted, it came up with a dark maroon background and medium blue text (yecchy preferences). It gave about three screens worth of info, the said "Wait for screen to blank, then insert Atari disk". (note well the ambiguity there...TOS disk or oldstyle ROM disk?) So, waited for a bit, and got a dark blue screen with the disk drive going (tick, tick). Since these were the conditions specified in the startup screens for Atari disk insertion (blank screen, drive chatter), inserted Atari disk and got a Guru. So, tried again. Same thing happened. It's bogus. Tried it with two Amigas (a 500 and a 2000HD). Only problem may have been if it needs more than 1MB. If so, why? and why wouldn't it be documented? John (.sig under reconstruction)
d87-khd@sm.luth.se (Karl-Gunnar Hultland) (10/27/89)
I have a question about the ST emulator which was posted in this newsgroup. Have A*ari ever had their T(rash)O(perating)S(ystem) on a disk (like A1000's kickstart) If they have it then that is the disk one need to run the STemulator. And that's because one CANNOT emulate a 128+ kB ROM on a disk which takes ~32kB warped. This leads to the conclusion that if there is no ST TOS disk and if the program isn't a fraud. one really need a program like i.e. macrom to get it working....... Karl ps I downloaded it and UUDECODED it on my amy and then warp accepted it nicely. But when I UUDECODED it on the sun warp wouldn't work.Any bugs in uudecode??? <$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$> < Karl 'Kalle' Hultland <$> > < Dept. of Comp. sci. <$> d87-khd@sm.luth.se | > < University of Lulea <$> {uunet,mcvax}!sunic.se!sm.luth.se!d87-khd > < Sweden <$> > <$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$> < If two people agree on EVERYTHING , one of them is OBSOLETE!! > <$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$>
jvance@ics.uci.edu (Joachim Patrick Vance) (10/27/89)
In article <618@tau.sm.luth.se> Karl-Gunnar Hultland <d87-khd@sm.luth.se> writes: >I have a question about the ST emulator which was posted in >this newsgroup. > >Have A*ari ever had their T(rash)O(perating)S(ystem) on >a disk (like A1000's kickstart) > Yes Atari did have their TOS on disk for the first few months of it's existence to work out the major bugs before they got it into ROM. I even have a copy. But I do wonder if anyone *really* has gotten the ST emulator to work (no one has said that it works). Does it really work or is this a fraud? Joachim -- Just Jokim
joe@cbmvax.UUCP (Joe O'Hara - QA) (10/27/89)
In article <618@tau.sm.luth.se> Karl-Gunnar Hultland <d87-khd@sm.luth.se> writes: >I have a question about the ST emulator which was posted in >this newsgroup. > >Have A*ari ever had their T(rash)O(perating)S(ystem) on >a disk (like A1000's kickstart) Yes, TOS was originally delivered on disk when the 520ST began shipments. ======================================================================== Joe O'Hara || Comments represent my own opinions, Commodore Electronics Ltd || not my employers. Any similarity to Software QA || to any other opinions, living or dead, || is purely coincidental. ======================================================================== -- ======================================================================== Joe O'Hara || Comments represent my own opinions, Commodore Electronics Ltd || not my employers. Any similarity to Software QA || to any other opinions, living or dead, || is purely coincidental. ========================================================================
schroede@nixbln.UUCP (10/27/89)
This file cannot be unwarped, because it is rotten. First it does not uudecode properly (short file) and then it will also not "unwarp". In the process of unwarping you get the first block 79 bytes, then 5808 ,24,5808 and then a massive 2Meg block! that no floppy drive can cope with. My suggestion ist to put a new errorless file to comp.sys.amiga if there is one, of course. wkr Wolfgang Schroeder
C05089%AKRONVM.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (don) (10/30/89)
now haveing tried to get this program to work with some atari formatted disks ,i am starting to think that the atari emulator is fake! i wish i had time before sending it out to check for myself! but the amount of mail i got i thought if it does work! if it does work.. well you get the point. i had my doubts about it from the start , but anyhow if you still want to see for your self i have a anonymous ftp sight at 130.101.5.81 and atari.wrp is in dir pub, this will only be open for a few days! its not to be a anonymous at all! ops. i still have a copy of it and am looking forward to checking out its code. if anyone get anything to work on it let us all know! for the people who can't get a working copy of it , the only way i can send it is by ftp i don't have i working uuencode here just a uudecode on my amiga! and god help me if the atari.wrp on that ftp sight don't work!!!!you all will be out to kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! download at you own risk! signed anonymous
umcharl3@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mike Charlton) (11/01/89)
Hi all. If this is the same ST emulator that I have, then it is bogus. I have also been told that it puts a virus on the ST disks (although I haven't verified this yet). It would be a good idea to check any disks that you tried for viruses. Mike
d87-khd@sm.luth.se (Karl-Gunnar Hultland) (11/01/89)
In article <2875@lab.udel.EDU> C05089%AKRONVM.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (don) writes: > >and god help me if the atari.wrp on that ftp sight don't work!!!!you all will >be out to kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >download at you own risk! Don't download it , it has the same size as the one posted on the net. (And that one didn't work) The real file should be a LOT larger at least 100 kB as the a*ari has 192 k OS(?) Karl <$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$> < Karl 'Kalle' Hultland <$> > < Dept. of Comp. sci. <$> d87-khd@sm.luth.se | > < University of Lulea <$> {uunet,mcvax}!sunic.se!sm.luth.se!d87-khd > < Sweden <$> > <$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$> < If two people agree on EVERYTHING , one of them is OBSOLETE!! > <$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$>
bobl@pro-graphics.cts.com (Bob Lindabury) (11/01/89)
In-Reply-To: message from jdm@gryphon.COM > At any rate, it doesn't work. Took it to a local store that sells both > Amiga and Atari ST, tried it out with an ST PD disk that they had. > The disk was bootable (saw it boot on a 520ST). > > When the emulator booted, it came up with a dark maroon background and > medium blue text (yecchy preferences). It gave about three screens worth > of info, the said "Wait for screen to blank, then insert Atari disk". > > (note well the ambiguity there...TOS disk or oldstyle ROM disk?) > > So, waited for a bit, and got a dark blue screen with the disk drive > going (tick, tick). Since these were the conditions specified in > the startup screens for Atari disk insertion (blank screen, drive > chatter), inserted Atari disk and got a Guru. > > So, tried again. Same thing happened. It's bogus. You're right! It IS bogus. If it's the same STEmulator that I had on my BBS about 2 years ago (old stuff) it was supposed to be a joke on the Atari. It looks like the startup of the Atari and then it's supposed to bomb to signify the rotten abilities of the Atari computer (in the authors opinion). I would have to say that we've wasted enough bandwidth on this lame excuse for a program and that we should all concern ourselves more with Amiga related items of interest. -- Bob _________________________ Pro-Graphics 201/469-0049 __________________________ InterNet: bobl@pro-graphics.cts.com | ProLine: bobl@pro-graphics UUCP: ..crash!pro-graphics!bobl | CServe: 70347,2344 ARPA/DDN: ..crash!pro-graphics!bobl@nosc.mil | Amer. Online: Graphics3D ___________ ____________ Raven Enterprises - 25 Raven Ave. Piscataway, NJ 08854
billsey@agora.UUCP (Bill Seymour) (11/02/89)
From article <12400001@nixbln:, by schroede@nixbln.UUCP: : This file cannot be unwarped, because it is rotten. : First it does not uudecode properly (short file) and then it will : also not "unwarp". In the process of unwarping you get the first block : 79 bytes, then 5808 ,24,5808 and then a massive 2Meg block! that : no floppy drive can cope with. The one I got here on agora uudecoded correctly, and warp had no trouble extracting it. the problem is that the warp was created off of a disk that had some non-Amiga tracks on it. These tracks are inter- preted by warp as just more blank disk and are compressed to the equivalent of 'format this track'. That's why you see the 24byte compression... The emulator progrsam expects the Atari ROM code to be on the disk in those non standard tracks. When you run the emulator, it fails because that code is no longer there. The only way to get a good, working copy would be to diskcoipy the original disk or use a hacked version of warp that compresses raw tracks and not AmigaDOS tracks. : wkr Wolfgang Schroeder -- -Bill Seymour ...tektronix!reed!percival!agora!billsey ...tektronix!sequent.UUCP!calvin!billsey Bejed, Inc. NES, Inc. Northwest Amiga Group At Home Sometimes (503) 691-2552 (503) 246-9311 (503) 656-7393 BBS (503) 640-0842
fnf@estinc.UUCP (Fred Fish) (11/04/89)
In article <1989Oct31.181242.8940@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umcharl3@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mike Charlton) writes: >Hi all. If this is the same ST emulator that I have, then it is bogus. >I have also been told that it puts a virus on the ST disks (although I haven't >verified this yet). It would be a good idea to check any disks that you tried >for viruses. If this is true then it sounds like an escalation of the "computer wars" that pop up now and then between the Amiga and Atari folks. Interesting, an Amiga program that infects only Atari systems... -Fred -- # Fred Fish, 1835 E. Belmont Drive, Tempe, AZ 85284, USA # 1-602-491-0048 asuvax!{nud,mcdphx}!estinc!fnf