portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) (10/31/89)
>>>>> On 31 Oct 89 16:27:51 GMT, mikey@NRC.COM (Mikey Goodglick) said:
m> Has anyone noticed, that in misc.forsale. MANY used Mac II's are being sold...
m> I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell you???
m> Please, no flames, this is just an observation.
It tells me that Apple has obsoleted the original Mac II in much the
same way that Commodore obsoleted the 1000, and that those Mac II
owners are seeking to upgrade to the IIx, IIcx, or IIci. It's similar
to the batch of A1000 owners who moved to 2xxx series machines -- they
weren't upset with Amigas, but wanted to move to newer hardware.
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portuesi@SGI.COMmikey@NRC.COM (Mikey Goodglick) (11/01/89)
Has anyone noticed, that in misc.forsale. MANY used Mac II's are being sold...
I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell you???
Please, no flames, this is just an observation.
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(Amiga, a REAL Chameleon) ------------------------------------wolfe@cygnus.nm.paradyne.com (Mike Wolfe) (11/04/89)
< On 31 Oct 89 16:27:51 GMT, mikey@NRC.COM (Mikey Goodglick) said:
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< Has anyone noticed, that in misc.forsale. MANY used Mac II's are being sold...
< I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell you???
Yeah... Apple sold more MAC II's than C= sold 1000's!
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PHONE 813-530-2196 DOMAIN wolfe@pdn.paradyne.combdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) (11/04/89)
In article <393@nrcvax.NRC.COM> mikey@nrc.com (Mikey Goodglick) writes: |Has anyone noticed, that in misc.forsale. MANY used Mac II's are being sold... |I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell you??? Unfortunately the conclusion which you are obviously zooming towards is overshadowed by the fact that there have been a lot more Mac II sales than Amiga sales so far... Perhaps this new C= marketing push will have an influence on this ratio in the long term - 'twould be nice... Cheers, -- .::. Bruce Becker Toronto, Ont. w \@@/ Internet: bdb@becker.UUCP, bruce@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu `/c/-e BitNet: BECKER@HUMBER.BITNET _/ \_ In the future the term "wife" will have no gender significance
Will@cup.portal.com (Will E Estes) (11/04/89)
< Has anyone noticed, that in misc.forsale. MANY used Mac II's are being sold. .. < I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell you??? It tells me first of all that Apple sold more Macs last year than IBM sold PS/2s. It tells me second that there are fewer Amigas being sold than you can shake a stick at. It tells me third that the Mac II is considered obsolete technology in Appleland, whereas the 2000 is closer to state of the art in Amigaland.
ms0p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Gordon Shapiro) (11/05/89)
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga: 31-Oct-89 Mac II's for sale??? > Why?? Mikey Goodglick@NRC.COM (1007) > Has anyone noticed, that in misc.forsale. MANY used Mac II's are being > sold... > I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell > you??? > Please, no flames, this is just an observation. It makes good financial sense if you're low on money. Sell an Amiga, buy a VCR. Sell a Mac II, buy a new car...
jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) (11/05/89)
In article <23681@cup.portal.com> Will@cup.portal.com (Will E Estes) writes: >< Has anyone noticed, that in misc.forsale. MANY used Mac II's are being sold. >.. >< I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell you??? Gee, it wouldn't have anything to do with the Mac II c{x,i} being sold, now would it? Reminds me of when the A2000 came out. Lots of A1000 went on the selling block... -- John M. Adams --*-- Professional Student on the six-year plan! Internet: jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu -or- vladimir@maple.circa.ufl.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "I saw it in a cartoon, but I'm pretty sure I can do it." Steve Wright
peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (11/06/89)
>I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell you???
People advertise Macs on misc.forsale, and Amigas on comp.sys.amiga?
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In article <393@nrcvax.NRC.COM>, mikey@NRC.COM (Mikey Goodglick) writes: >Has anyone noticed, that in misc.forsale. MANY used Mac II's are being sold... >I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell you??? I don't believe that Apple sells Mac II's any more because of the newer 68030 based SE/30, IIcx, IIci, and IIx. The II just wouldn't fit any more because it only has a 68020 in it and it would be horrendously overpriced for what it does. So, Apple is evidently fazing it out very rapidly... andy -- Andy Nicholas InterNET: shrinkit@moravian.edu Box 435, Moravian College uucp: rutgers!liberty!batman!shrinkit Bethlehem, PA 18018 GEnie: shrinkit -- I'm finally a Senior! America Online: shrinkit CIS: 70007,3141
rar@auc.UUCP (Rodney Ricks) (11/07/89)
In article <23681@cup.portal.com> Will@cup.portal.com (Will E Estes) writes: >< Has anyone noticed, that in misc.forsale. MANY used Mac II's are being sold. >.. >< I see only a handful of used Amigas being sold...What does this tell you??? > >It tells me first of all that Apple sold more Macs last year than IBM sold >PS/2s. > It tells me second that there are fewer Amigas being sold than you >can shake a stick at. Wrong. There are certainly less Amigas sold than Macs and IBM PS/2s (in the US), but don't imply that only a few Amigas are being sold. That's just not true. > It tells me third that the Mac II is considered >obsolete technology in Appleland, whereas the 2000 is closer to state of the >art in Amigaland. That's not true, either. Is the Mac II considered obsolete technology or is it overpriced for what it does compared to the newer Macs? Also, state of the art in "Amigaland" is a 68030 system with 68882 running at 25Mhz. State of the art in "Amigaland" was on the 68020 processors for awhile before that. While it's true that you can't say that the Amiga is superior to the Mac just because more Macs are being sold over the net, you also can't correctly base judgements of the relative states-of-the-art, or amount of sales of the two machines based solely on this same information. If the person who posted the original article REALLY wants an answer, I'll try my best. From what I've heard, Apple has basically said that there is not much reason to buy an original Mac II anymore, since you can get much better performance out of slightly more expensive 68030 Macs. Do we REALLY need to continue this discussion? Rodney -- "We may have come over here in different ships, but we're all in the same boat now." -- Jesse Jackson Rodney Ricks, Morehouse College