[net.music] let's liven up the group

timw@umcp-cs.UUCP (03/29/84)

Hey Sean....

	You never mentioned The Jam in your discussion. Sorry to jump
on you, but i like The Jam a lot, and many people put them in the
same group as the Pistols or the Clash or the Damned, even though they
don't belong there. Hardcore and punk are very diverse crowds. Hardcore
is a lot of teenagers who are really bored with society. Most of them
come from nice suburban nieghborhoods, and have led normal lifes(normal
as we know it).

	These 'kids' and I will call them kids because they are, just 
got tired of listening to the radio, or listening to all of the punk that
was on the radio at the time(if you heard any). They weren't into drugs or
alcohol, they thought it was stupid. They called themselves 'straight edges'
because they refused drugs, but embraced speed and caffiene as the be all,
end all.

	I know a good many people who play in hardcore bands from the area
(Washington DC), and I have talked to some of them. They think that hardcore
is just an excuse to be different, to go against the grain. That's the only
reason they could give me, besides that "it's a neat thing to do". In my
mind I think that is pretty stupid, but that's the way they feel. They don't
want to be of the crowd, but they created their own crowd, and if you don't
dress like they do or act like they do, then they make you an outcast from 
society, just the way everybody else does. 


	Here are some of my favorite groups:

	Hardcore: Agent Orange, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Void
	Punk: Damned, Jam, Sex Pistols, Joy Division
	
	Others: Dream Syndicate, Jonathan Richman, Velvet Underground,
		Residents, Brian Eno.


mincemeat was right...let's go to Macy's and buy ripped shirts...

-- 

Tim Wicinski			  
University of Maryland

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