sno@sno-1.UUCP (Stephen N. Opal) (10/31/89)
Has anyone else noticed that the computer (Evil) opponent in Populous will
continually flood land whenever it has enough Manna to do it? This has proven
to be a really stupid tactic as the computer usually floods itself right out
of the game, making an easy win.
Another problem, each new world has a level number +3 or so of the previous one.
What is happening with all the intermediate levels?
Also, has anyone successfully designed a tactic that allows you to make it
past level 82? This is the artic environment where you get 2 colonies while
the computer gets 4. When the computer gets enough manna, (which is really easy
for it) it knights. By this time, I am lucky if I can get enough manna to
create swamps, while the computer has literally tons of castles. I have yet
to figure out a successful defense to the pillaging. For the record, until this
level, I was able to drown any knight before any damage occured. Now the computer
watches and rescues the knight before he goes in. My main defense is gone.
Now, I don't feel like playing the game anymore because of the leap in difficulty
foisted on me by this level. Any help would be appreciated.
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Stephen N. Opal (313) 572-1610jac423@leah.Albany.Edu (Jules Cisek) (11/02/89)
In article <10182.AA10182@sno-1>, sno@sno-1.UUCP (Stephen N. Opal) writes: > Has anyone else noticed that the computer (Evil) opponent in Populous > will continually flood land whenever it has enough Manna to do it? This > has proven to be a really stupid tactic as the computer usually floods > itself right out of the game, making an easy win. When the computer gets smarter, it doesn't do that as often. > Another problem, each new world has a level number +3 or so of the > previous one. What is happening with all the intermediate levels? The better you do in the last game, the further along the worlds you can go. If you do really poorly (score is very low, like 17,000 or so), you will only go up by one world. > Also, has anyone successfully designed a tactic that allows you to make > it past level 82? This is the artic environment where you get 2 > colonies while the computer gets 4. When the computer gets enough > manna, (which is really easy for it) it knights. By this time, I am > lucky if I can get enough manna to create swamps, while the computer has > literally tons of castles. I have yet to figure out a successful > defense to the pillaging. Try surrounding his 'un'holy symbol with water by moving your population there as quick as you can and keeping it surrounded. This will certainly prevent new knights from being created. -- Fight | // Julius A. Cisek jac423,jules |Don't Like a| \X/ ->crunch<- SUNYA, NY USA @leah.albany.edu | Be a Brave | IB...M I do think it's good... |Slave
cfg@grad10.cs.duke.edu (Christopher F. Gandy) (11/03/89)
I tried to send this via email, but could not come up with a host my system would recognize. In article <10182.AA10182@sno-1> sno@sno-1.UUCP (Stephen N. Opal) writes: >Has anyone else noticed that the computer (Evil) opponent in Populous will >continually flood land whenever it has enough Manna to do it? This has proven >to be a really stupid tactic as the computer usually floods itself right out >of the game, making an easy win. > >Another problem, each new world has a level number +3 or so of the previous one. >What is happening with all the intermediate levels? > >Also, has anyone successfully designed a tactic that allows you to make it >past level 82? This is the artic environment where you get 2 colonies while >the computer gets 4. When the computer gets enough manna, (which is really easy >for it) it knights. By this time, I am lucky if I can get enough manna to >create swamps, while the computer has literally tons of castles. I have yet >to figure out a successful defense to the pillaging. For the record, until this >level, I was able to drown any knight before any damage occured. Now the computer >watches and rescues the knight before he goes in. My main defense is gone. >Now, I don't feel like playing the game anymore because of the leap in difficulty >foisted on me by this level. Any help would be appreciated. > Well, I was thinking about posting to the net about my "problems" with Populous, but as it turns out, I think I can help you. I am currently foaming at the mouth at my inability to get past battle level 114. First, the easy question, the intermediate levels you are skipping is based on the score you racked up on the previous battle. Win by only 30K or so and the number goes up only 1 (and the next battle is VERY similar to the previous one, only on new initial terrain). Win by 100K or more and you can get a jump of up to around 6 levels. Next, fear not, the higher the ranking of the opponent, the less often he resorts to the flood. I have found that higher levels, he relies on the volcano quite a bit more (the rocks introduced make it harder for you to rebuild the castles you had). I had a similar plateau around #82. I found that you will have to accept some losses to those early knights. Do not worry about it, and do not waste time reclaiming the burnt lands right away. First, AFTER the knight is on your main land mass, lower the path he took to get there into the water so no other non-knights can follow. Then, concentrate on building AWAY from his main land mass. I claimed almost the entire top half of the world before I even tried to go over to his land and attack. You are right in using the swamps. Keep his population low, and he will not get the manna needed to send more knights. Once you have a large land mass, go back and reclaim burnt land, THEN start sending all the knights you can into his main land mass. Oh yeah, use the swamps wisely. Continue to put a band of them on the edge of his land so anyone trying to come over to you will hit them. At that level, he does very little to remove the swamps you put in. Now, If you know someone who can get me past my hump (I swear the computer is cheating me at this point, there is NO WAY he can earn manna so much faster than I do (I have watched his developement, and I progress at the same rate, but never have nearly as much manna as he does [as evidenced by the use of disasters left and right])). This is a great game. If I can be of any future help. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * I won't grow up, not a penny will I pinch | Department of Computer Science, * I will never grow a moustache, or a | Duke University, * fraction of an inch. | Durham, NC 27706 * Cause growing up is awfuller than all the | * awful things that ever were. | ARPA: cfg@cs.duke.edu * I won't grow up, never grow up..... | CSNET: cfg@duke * Not ME! (P. Pan & cfg) | UUCP: decvax!duke!cfg -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
sno@sno-1.UUCP (Stephen N. Opal) (11/07/89)
Thanks so much to those who responded to my stalemate with Populous.
Some interesting strategies were explained that helped a great deal.
My final solution actually ended up being ignoring that level and working
my way around it. In order to do it without bouncing back to this particular
level I had back up 2 passes. Redoing level 74 gave me enough points to
jump past the dead end level before 82. Mission accomplished.
I'm now cruising my way through past level 105 with virtually no problems.
For those who would like to experience this miserable level that caused my
exclamation of exasperation... it is "Hobmeill".
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Stephen N. Opal (313) 572-1610ameiba@reed.bitnet (Keith Steiger,Mac 309,0,) (11/09/89)
In article <10758.AA10758@sno-1> sno@sno-1.UUCP (Stephen N. Opal) writes: >Thanks so much to those who responded to my stalemate with Populous. >Some interesting strategies were explained that helped a great deal. Could you share some of these strategies with the rest of the net.world? I'd be happy to contribute, but I don't know what other people have said. Populous is addictive, but getting stuck is one of the most frustrating things about it. >I'm now cruising my way through past level 105 with virtually no problems. Don't worry, you'll come across a level that you can't deal with. I've been stuck around level 161 for quite a while now. By the way, is trading names of levels kosher? A dubious proposition at best, methinks. -- TTYL, Keith Steiger--ameiba@reed.BITNET, ameiba@reed.UUCP, tektronix!reed!ameiba "I am what you see. Myself.... I cannot be otherwise." Disclaimer: Reed College tries very hard to ignore its students' opinions. -- TTYL, Keith Steiger--ameiba@reed.BITNET, ameiba@reed.UUCP, tektronix!reed!ameiba "I am what you see. Myself.... I cannot be otherwise." Disclaimer: Reed College tries very hard to ignore its students' opinions.
piaw@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Na Choon Piaw) (11/10/89)
In article <13545@reed.UUCP> ameiba@dharma.JPL.NASA.GOV (Keith Steiger) writes: >I'd be happy to contribute, but I don't know what other people have said. >Populous is addictive, but getting stuck is one of the most frustrating >things about it. Just say what ever found works for you --- I need all the hints I can get... >stuck around level 161 for quite a while now. By the way, is trading names >of levels kosher? A dubious proposition at best, methinks. Maybe some one should collate all the names and post them in world level order or something. >TTYL, Keith Steiger--ameiba@reed.BITNET, ameiba@reed.UUCP, tektronix!reed!ameiba ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Na Choon Piaw P.O Box, 4067, Berkeley, CA 94704-0067 piaw@cory.berkeley.edu Disclaimer: I'm speaking only for myself! piaw@ocf.berkeley.edu "Still on honeymoon with his Amiga...."
egranthm@centec.UUCP (Ewan Grantham x 103) (11/16/89)
In article <10182.AA10182@sno-1>, sno@sno-1.UUCP (Stephen N. Opal) writes: @ Has anyone else noticed that the computer (Evil) opponent in Populous will > continually flood land whenever it has enough Manna to do it? This has proven > to be a really stupid tactic as the computer usually floods itself right out > of the game, making an easy win. Yes, but then considering what all it has to keep track of, I'm not surprised. I remember one world where the sucker kept volcanoing me out of existence... @ Also, has anyone successfully designed a tactic that allows you to make it > past level 82? This is the artic environment where you get 2 colonies while > the computer gets 4. When the computer gets enough manna, (which is really easy > for it) it knights. By this time, I am lucky if I can get enough manna to > create swamps, while the computer has literally tons of castles. I have yet > to figure out a successful defense to the pillaging. For the record, until this > level, I was able to drown any knight before any damage occured. Now the computer > watches and rescues the knight before he goes in. My main defense is gone. Well, the main thing I did was to try and keep my colonies small at first to force my folks to reproduce as fast as he did. Once I seemed to have an equivalent number of people, I was able to use the earthquakes to keep him off balance. I did see him knight twice, but was able to lure him out on a promintory and sink the fellow both times, so I guess you just have to be a little lucky. @ From: {sharkey!rjf001,clip!m-net}!sno-1!sno @ Stephen N. Opal (313) 572-1610 Ewan Grantham ...uunet!centec!egranthm