kudla@pawl.rpi.edu (Robert J. Kudla) (11/07/89)
A few questions on configuring the Amiga as a Macintoaster.
First of all, I've heard of some product called "Amigatosh Plus". What
exactly is this and how does it compare with Amax, assuming that it's
actually an emulator? I'm hoping to come by a GVP Impact hard drive
and think it would be sort of neat to be able to use it on the mac
side. I know that'd take a bit of screwing around, but maybe since
it's a competing product they've managed something I couldn't hope to
do.
Second, how does one hook a Mac drive up to the Amiga? Everyone tells
me it's a lot easier to run Mac software under Amax with a drive. Does
Amax have an extra port for a Mac drive or something, or does it come
with an adaptor or what?
Finally, on an amusing note, I hear from a local BBS echo that Amax
has been cracked into a purely-software version by some random pirates
(ie you de-warp a couple disks and you've got a Mac). I think this is
pretty funny..... what will they do next, crack the Video Toaster?
I guess that validates the idea of a disk-based ST emulator, though.
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Robert Jude Kudla <kudla@pawl.rpi.edu> <kudla@acm.rpi.edu> <fw3s@RPITSMTS>
What noisy cats are we.ms0p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Gordon Shapiro) (11/08/89)
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga: 7-Nov-89 Macinstuff Robert J. > Kudla@pawl.rpi (1191) > Finally, on an amusing note, I hear from a local BBS echo that Amax > has been cracked into a purely-software version by some random pirates > (ie you de-warp a couple disks and you've got a Mac). I think this is > pretty funny..... what will they do next, crack the Video Toaster? > I guess that validates the idea of a disk-based ST emulator, though. > -- The reason they can do that is because it's simply a matter of reading in the pirate MuckROMs from disk, which is analogous to the only function of the AMax hardware. The sad thing is that it's much faster that way, too...
jdm@gryphon.COM (John Mesiavech) (11/09/89)
In article <1989Nov7.101219.29893@rpi.edu> kudla@pawl.rpi.edu (Robert J. Kudla) writes: >A few questions on configuring the Amiga as a Macintoaster. > >First of all, I've heard of some product called "Amigatosh Plus". What >exactly is this and how does it compare with Amax, assuming that it's >actually an emulator? I'm hoping to come by a GVP Impact hard drive The Amig-a-tosh Plus is a product by MAST Technologies. What they did is simply this: They took a Mac drive, combined an Amiga drive interface and a ReadySoft AMAX cratridge and combined them all into one box. You still need the AMAX software and the Mac ROMS. It's just AMAX in a neater package, nothing different. For using AMAX with a HD, see AMAX 2 coming RSN. > >Second, how does one hook a Mac drive up to the Amiga? Everyone tells >me it's a lot easier to run Mac software under Amax with a drive. Does >Amax have an extra port for a Mac drive or something, or does it come The Readysoft AMAX adapter cartridge plugs into the Amiga's external disk drive port, or into an external drive that gives it power. The adpater cart has an Amiga drive passthru, as well as an Mac drive plug on it. It accepts the newer-style DB connectors, not the earlier DIN. > >Finally, on an amusing note, I hear from a local BBS echo that Amax >has been cracked into a purely-software version by some random pirates >(ie you de-warp a couple disks and you've got a Mac). I think this is Nope, that's not quite what they did. There's a program out called MacRom, by John Draper AKA Cap'n Crunch. What it does is make an image file of the Mac ROMS on disk, then, IF you run MacRom before loading AMAX, you can force AMAX to use the disk ROM instead of the real,live cart ROM. This costs you 128K of memory though, since the disk ROM image must be resident before the Mac system takes over. It's not intended to pirate AMAX, and those that use it in such a fashion lose the ability to use a Mac drive, which makes the program extremely hard to use (no comments here about friends that have AMAX...and no piracy flames please!) John (.sig under reconstruction)
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (11/10/89)
<kZJro8600XogM1QmcA@andrew.cmu.edu> Sender: Reply-To: sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Corpane Industries, Inc. Keywords: In article <kZJro8600XogM1QmcA@andrew.cmu.edu> ms0p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Gordon Shapiro) writes: >> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga: 7-Nov-89 Macinstuff Robert Kudla > >> Finally, on an amusing note, I hear from a local BBS echo that Amax >> has been cracked into a purely-software version by some random pirates >> (ie you de-warp a couple disks and you've got a Mac). >The reason they can do that is because it's simply a matter of reading >in the pirate MuckROMs from disk, which is analogous to the only >function of the AMax hardware. The sad thing is that it's much faster >that way, too... Yea, but as far as I know, you can't plug a mac drive into the amiga drive port so without the hardware box, they can't hook up any Mac drives.. they can only read the mac stuff that was placed on amiga disks. But you need to have the AMAX hardware in order to copy the stuff onto the amiga disks. So it looks like this piracy is a bit spoiled, eh? :-) -- John Sparks | {rutgers|uunet}!ukma!corpane!sparks | D.I.S.K. 24hrs 1200bps ||||||||||||||| sparks@corpane.UUCP | 502/968-5401 thru -5406 If you've seen one nuclear war, you've seen them all.
dannie@coplex.UUCP (Dannie Gregoire) (11/10/89)
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: >But you need to have the AMAX hardware in order to copy the stuff >onto the amiga disks. So it looks like this piracy is a bit spoiled, >eh? :-) Not if you have a Mac TERM package (I believe Red Ryder has been "provided" on the pirate distribution disks) and some archival software, and a friend with a Mac and a modem ;-) ;-) >-- >John Sparks | {rutgers|uunet}!ukma!corpane!sparks | D.I.S.K. 24hrs 1200bps >||||||||||||||| sparks@corpane.UUCP | 502/968-5401 thru -5406 >If you've seen one nuclear war, you've seen them all.
pete@i-core.UUCP (Pete Ashdown) (11/13/89)
Actually, cracking the A-Max to disk isn't all that unfeasible. People are mislead to believe that the cartridge plays a key-role in the emulation, when in fact, all it is is an interface to the drive and a cheap PROM reader. It reads the PROMs into memory when you start A-Max, that is why it freezes up for about 30 seconds then returns to normal. All one would have to do is patch in a routine to load memory with the saved ROMs and remove the check for the cartridge. No big deal. Yet people are still baffled over the whole idea of Mac emulation. Which brings me to my next point. Is it possible to access the Amiga hardware through the Mac emulation? Could an INIT be written to QuickDraw with the blitter rather than the processor? Could you modify the copper-list to 'rainbow' the Mac's colors and thus provide you with a psychedelic Mac? I don't know of any monitors that allow you to dink around on the Mac, that "programmers switch" is a poor excuse. Has anyone tried this stuff?
portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) (11/17/89)
>>>>> On 10 Nov 89 15:20:57 GMT, dannie@coplex.UUCP (Dannie Gregoire) said: dannie> sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: >But you need to have the AMAX hardware in order to copy the stuff >onto the amiga disks. So it looks like this piracy is a bit spoiled, >eh? :-) dannie> Not if you have a Mac TERM package (I believe Red Ryder has been "provided" dannie> on the pirate distribution disks) and some archival software, and a friend dannie> with a Mac and a modem ;-) ;-) Or if you own the Mac-2-Dos package from Central Coast, which allows you to read and write Macintosh disks with a Mac disk drive.... --M -- __ \/ Michael Portuesi Silicon Graphics Computer Systems, Inc. portuesi@SGI.COM "you might not think so now, but just you wait and see..." --Kate Bush
hill@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Anthony Adam Hill) (11/20/89)
Raise the flag--- there be PIRATES on the net........
Hang 'em by the yardarms, NO! Make them buy an IBM PC (AHHHHHGGGGGG!!!)
Adam hill