[comp.sys.amiga] Manx 4.9b BETA

dlarson@blake.acs.washington.edu (Dale Larson) (11/18/89)

/*  Eat me  */

I've been using the Manx 4.9a beta over the last month+ for a least several
hours a day (usually much more).  I've had few problems with it, and the 
4.9b beta I recieved to day fixed all of the problems I reported.  Since
the people at Manx say they hear very little from other beta testers, I 
assume that I'm not missing a dearth of problems.  I don't know there current
planned ship date, but a couple of weeks ago it was still end of November.
Assuming the docs are ready (I have 12 pages and 2 read.me's), that date
seems fairly realistic, but I will let you know if I am informed of any
changes, when it is released, etc.  (I talk to Manx at least weekly, usually
more frequently).

As for the review I promised once upon a time, well Dillon's article beat
me to it, remember.

Yes, the problem I had with the char which Guru'ed unless global was
stack alignment, and yes, Manx corrected it.

I am willing to answer questions about the new compiler, as long as they are
not of the type "when will it be released?" "how much will it cost?" or
"should I buy manx or lattice?" 
-- 
	    A lack of prior planning on the part of any programmer 
		       always constitutes an emergency.
	
           Digital Teddy Bear      dlarson@blake.acs.washington.edu

ern@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Ernest J Obusek) (11/19/89)

Dale, I tried to mail this to you, but it bounced.

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Hi.  I have some questions about the new Manx compiler:

Does it have an integrated environment?
    If it does, can you run it from the command line?
    Can you use any editor?


How fast is it compared to the Manx 3.6a?


Does it have a way to make resident programs like Lattice does?


Is there a new debugger or is the old one still usable?


Does it have a profiling mechanism?


Are the object files Lattice compatible?


Has the documentation improved any?


That's all.  Thanks for offering to answer questions.  I'm REAL curious about
this compiler.


Ernest

ern@unix.cis.pitt.edu
ern@cisunx.UUCP

moster@iris.ucdavis.edu (Richard Moster) (11/19/89)

	Does the new version of SDB (the symbolic debugger) correctly
display array values?  How about doubles when linking with the regular
fast floating point library?

Richard Moster

dougp@voodoo.ucsb.edu (11/19/89)

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In article <4508@blake.acs.washington.edu>, dlarson@blake.acs.washington.edu (Dale Larson) writes...
>I am willing to answer questions about the new compiler, as long as they are
>not of the type "when will it be released?" "how much will it cost?" or
>"should I buy manx or lattice?" 

Did Manx add any non ANSI extentions? If so, what are they? 
Specificly did they add a single line comment operand (like
//)?

Is there a good optimizer? What kind of optimizations does it do?

Does it compile faster, create smaller code, create code which
executes faster than Lattice? :->

Douglas Peale

prem@geomag.fsu.edu (Prem Subrahmanyam) (11/20/89)

In article <3057@hub.UUCP> dougp@voodoo.ucsb.edu writes:
>Is there a good optimizer? What kind of optimizations does it do?
>Does it compile faster, create smaller code, create code which
>executes faster than Lattice? :->
>Douglas Peale

  Answers.....  No...none...yes...no...no.  At present, despite a few
  bugs, Lattice is considered to be the frontrunner in the compiler
  wars.  It also comes with a nifty environment...conman installed,
  a VERY GOOD editor (LSE), and a generally very useful, professional
  system for developing things on the Amiga.  The new release, 5.04
  is supposed to correct quite a few bugs in the earlier release, 5.02.
  Oh, Lattice also sends FREE UPGRADES of their compiler with each new
  release....I bought 5.02 and received a free 5.02 to 5.04 upgrader disk
  a few weeks ago.
  ---Prem Subrahmanyam

w-edwinh@microsoft.UUCP (Edwin Hoogerbeets) (11/24/89)

In article <3057@hub.UUCP> dougp@voodoo.ucsb.edu writes:
>Did Manx add any non ANSI extentions? If so, what are they? 

I'm told they did. Full ANSI compatibility. (corrections?)

>Specificly did they add a single line comment operand (like
>//)?

Those are not in the ANSI standard, but a carry over from BCPL. 
(shriek - sorry, I didn't mean to use such nasty language ;-)
It was re-introduced by C++, and many compiler writers have since 
re-introduced it into C. (like Microsoft)

Edwin

nor1675@dsacg2.UUCP (Michael Figg) (11/24/89)

In article <376@fsu.scri.fsu.edu>, prem@geomag.fsu.edu (Prem Subrahmanyam) writes:

>   Oh, Lattice also sends FREE UPGRADES of their compiler with each new
>   release....I bought 5.02 and received a free 5.02 to 5.04 upgrader disk
>   a few weeks ago.
>   ---Prem Subrahmanyam

Lattice DOES NOT send free upgrades to there compiler. The upgrades (such as 
v4.0 and v5.0) are usually available for $50 - $75. Notices are usually sent
to registered owners. Revisions on those upgrades (i.e. v5.02 & v5.04) are
sent to currently registered owners.

  

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