usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) (07/25/89)
Somebody a few posts ago was compliaing that dnet would start ftem, exit, start it again and so on... Matt and somebody else blamed it on the modem. Well, I start dent -X -8 -b9600 on the amiga There is a piece of wire between the amiga and the sun, nothing else. I get to the login: get logged in, and type dnet Then the amiga says "DNET RUNNING", an FTERM comes up and then goes away. UNtil recently then another FTERM window would come up and so on. Im not sure what I changed, but now after the FTERM goes away, the DNET v2.01.10 window comes back with the suns name in the window. If i go over to the sun and try starting some dnet program, then wierd chars appear in the amigas dnet window. Any guesses? Iv'e go over and over the dnet docs and im sure all my paths are correct. REAL NAME: Joe Porkka jap@frith.cl.msu.edu
kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) (07/25/89)
In article <3906@cps3xx.UUCP> porkka@frith.UUCP (Joe Porkka) writes: >Well, I start dent -X -8 -b9600 on the amiga You might want to try: Dnet -X -8 -h0 -b9600 The -h0 disables the auto-hangup feature for when DCD is not high. I.e., without -h0, it will hangup after connecting when it sees that DCD is not high. This appears to be what is happening in your case. ======================================================= Kent Polk - Southwest Research Institute {cs.utexas.edu, gatech!petro sun!texsun}!swrinde!kent kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu ------------------------------------------------------- "Anything worth doing is worth overdoing" =======================================================
marc@cbmvax.UUCP (Marc Rifkin - CATS) (07/26/89)
When using DNET on a direct connect setup, I usually use the -h option
-it disables the feature that will "hang up" DNET if there is no
"carrier detect" where there is none when you're not on a telephone
hook up.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong!
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"...Them bats is smart, they use radar."david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) (07/26/89)
In article <19024@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.UUCP (Kent D. Polk) writes: >In article <3906@cps3xx.UUCP> porkka@frith.UUCP (Joe Porkka) writes: >>Well, I start dent -X -8 -b9600 on the amiga > >You might want to try: >Dnet -X -8 -h0 -b9600 I was the original "complainer" on this .. -h0 *does* work Matt tells me that -h0 shouldn't be necessary and that if I have to use that then my cable is probably wrong. I haven't looked into the cabling yet. Nor have I figured it all out completely yet.. Haven't had enough time really. I do like the software. -- <- David Herron; an MMDF guy <david@ms.uky.edu> <- ska: David le casse\*' {rutgers,uunet}!ukma!david, david@UKMA.BITNET <- "Amiga software is as good and as bad as PC software. The difference is <- that AmigaDOS waves bye-bye before it dies, while the PC just freezes."
kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) (07/27/89)
In article <12280@s.ms.uky.edu> david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) writes: >In article <19024@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.UUCP (Kent D. Polk) writes: >>Dnet -X -8 -h0 -b9600 [...] >-h0 *does* work > >Matt tells me that -h0 shouldn't be necessary and that if I have to use >that then my cable is probably wrong. [...] The -h0 is necessary for when one can't implement the control lines (DCD in particular) as in my condition where my serial port cable goes into a 9600 baud current loop converter and off into the nether regions of the basement where lurks Swrinde - our monstrous Sun fileserver. Two TX lines, two RX lines. No handshake. >I do like the software. Yep. You know, Dnet is the second most useful piece of software I use. I think it's about time I sent Matt a donation - I think I remember him stating in his documentation that he wouldn't turn it down :^) (Gotta add enough filler to get Postnews to accept this thingy) ======================================================= Kent Polk - Southwest Research Institute {cs.utexas.edu, gatech!petro sun!texsun}!swrinde!kent kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu ------------------------------------------------------- "Anything worth doing is worth overdoing" =======================================================
mboen@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) (07/27/89)
usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes: > [some stuff about dnet on the amiga, which I won't include] Are you sure that comp.os.minix, which after all is a newsgroup concerning discussions about the MINIX operating system, was the right group to include in a list of groups to crosspost to for a subject like that ? Is there a dnet program for MINIX, perhaps ? Does MINIX run on your Amiga yet? Probably the answers are all 'NO'. So please be careful about crosspostings. Discussion of Amiga-specific stuff should only take place in comp.sys.amiga or comp.sys.amiga.tech. Feel free to discuss MINIX on the Amiga in comp.os.minix, however. Martin PS: This is NOT supposed to be a flame post (I sure hope it doesn't sound like one). -- Email: in the USA -> ...!uunet!philabs!linus!nixbur!mboening.pad outside USA -> {...!mcvax}!unido!nixpbe!mboening.pad Paper Mail: Martin Boening, Nixdorf Computer AG, DS2, Pontanusstr. 55, 4790 Paderborn, W.-Germany
wayne@hcr.UUCP (Wayne Feick) (07/28/89)
Try adding the "-h" option. I needed that to get my A500 to talk to our Sun.
rtczegledi@crocus.waterloo.edu (Richard Czegledi) (08/07/89)
Wanted: New Aux: device or info on how to make one. Hi. If anyone could help me locate or would be willing to program an aux: type device for reasonable $$ with the following features I would be really happy: The ability to 'not listen' to the serial port, and prevent any output from the cli running through aux: to go through the CLI port. The ability to inteligently change baud. It would be nice if it didn't crash the machine when funny stuff happens (the 1.3 aux: usualy crashes when someone picks up the phone on the other end of the line). Also, when I do a newcli aux: with the comm parameters set for 2400 8N1, and someone calls, the modem answers, but the aux: device usualy freezes, and won't give access to the cli. Also, it would be great if it supported an Arexx port where I could command it to do certain things. It should be able to filter a few nasty characters (^C and ^D), as well as not hang when I do an echo >aux: "junk" (which sometimes crashes the 1.3 aux: device). It would be beneficial, as well if this aux: device could also feature a 'tap' mode, where an external process of my own device could view the session as if it were running localy (through a console window). That's an outline of what I need. I'd be willing to hire someone to code it (preferably in C), but assembler would be OK). There are a few other things that would have to be in it, but it shouldn't be too tough (the current aux: device is only 2k). If someone could supply code to the existing Aux: device, I might be able to accomplish my goals my self. Anything you can do would be great. If you're interested in programming such a beast for me, you can contact me at: Spaghetti Western Words and Images 100 Kinzie Ave. Kitchener, Ontario. N2A 2J5 TelNum: (519)578-8525
perry@madnix.UUCP (Perry Kivolowitz) (08/11/89)
In article <15709@watdragon.waterloo.edu> rtczegledi@crocus.waterloo.edu (Richard Czegledi) writes: >Wanted: New Aux: device or info on how to make one. >(description of desired features) The AUX: equivalent which we supply with the ASDG Dual Serial Board will do much of what you want. For example: Command Line setting of serial parameters. (There's a lot more to having an expansion serial device then having the hardware.) pk -- Perry Kivolowitz, ASDG Inc. ARPA: madnix!perry@cs.wisc.edu {uunet|ncoast}!marque! UUCP: {harvard|rutgers|ucbvax}!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!perry CIS: 76004,1765 (what was that about ``giggling teenagers''?)
bmacintyre@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Blair MacIntyre) (12/13/89)
New and exciting problems in the wonderfull world of DNET.
I got the second newest version (Nov27th dates) and it worked, except
for the fact that there was no nfs-handler. So when the newest version
came out (Dec2nd dates) I ftp'd it and got the nfs-handler. But it
won't work!
So, I figured that something else must have changed, since the dnet
executable had been updated. So, I moved it to my bin directories, too.
So, now I had the entire newest version installed.
And now nothing works ...
Anybody have the very newest version working??? I had the first posted
version of the 7bit version worked, but no more ...
Symptoms:
- I am using a Sytek network (fast 7bit packet network to hook multiple
machines of different types to lots of terminals) to connect to our
Vax with my Amiga.
- when I run the newest version, the Vax kicks me out! No core file,
no nothing.
what I think might be happening is the dnet on the unix end is stoping.
Whenever I stop in with a break, it dumps me out, so this would make
sence.
Help!
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-- Blair MacIntyre, Professional Leech on Society ( aka CS Graduate Student )
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-- "Cornflakes should be seen and not heard" - anonymousakl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Rob Tillotson) (12/13/89)
In article <19234@watdragon.waterloo.edu> bmacintyre@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Blair MacIntyre) writes: >New and exciting problems in the wonderfull world of DNET. > >So, I figured that something else must have changed, since the dnet >executable had been updated. So, I moved it to my bin directories, too. >So, now I had the entire newest version installed. > >And now nothing works ... > >- when I run the newest version, the Vax kicks me out! No core file, > no nothing. You know, this sounds very familiar. When the first 7-bit version, it worked fine for me, but of course the nfs-handler was not there. Then, I picked up the new version and installed the new dnet binary. Much to my surprise, as soon as it started up, it opened the fterm window, exchanged some data, then disconnected me. I put back the old dnet executable and tried nfs-handler... upon mounting NF0: and cd'ing to it, a bunch of data is exchanged (and a few things written to the NFS log file; I recompiled the server with the DEBUG option on) but the Amiga end just hangs forever until dnet is killed, at which time I get a typical "NF0: not found" message from cd. An examination of the output of 'ps' shows that there are three processes running on the Unix system, with no control terminals, that seem to be associated with the NFS server. I haven't had time to look into it further. By the way, while the nfs-handler is hung the rest of dnet works just fine so I can fterm, putfiles, and getfiles all day with no problem... By the way, I am running dnet on a Sequent Symmetry running Dynix (pretty much 4.3bsd), and am connected by a dialup connection through an AT&T Information Systems Network which gives a 7-bit even parity link with XON/XOFF flow control... G'day, eh? --TS -- Rob Tillotson Internet: akl@mace.cc.purdue.edu 320 Brown St. #406 BITNET: ROBT@PURCCVM West Lafayette, IN 47906 Fido: 1:201/40.302
jac@muslix.llnl.gov (James Crotinger) (12/14/89)
Did you install the new DNET executables on both ends? When I went to the newest version (w/nfs-handler included in the archive) I somehow didn't get the newest dnet onto my Amiga and it wouldn't work. Once I got all the newer versions installed, everything worked as I described earlier (i.e. dnet works, amiga clients work, and UNIX clients work from an fterm window, but not from the Sun). I've never been able to get nfs-handler to work. Anyone else? Jim
evgabb@sdrc.UUCP (Rob Gabbard) (12/14/89)
I've got DNET installed on a Sun 4/330 and my A2500. I can login to the Sun
from my Amiga, start up dnet (which fires up fterm) but anything I do from
there on says either "Unable to connect" or "DOpen: No such file or directory".
What gives ? I am dialing into an HP and then rlogin'ing into the Sun. Could
this be screwing it up ? My $DNETDIR is on the SUN's local disk. Also, what
significance does DNETHOST have ?
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In article <41448@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> jac@muslix.UUCP (James Crotinger) writes: > > Did you install the new DNET executables on both ends? When I went to >the newest version (w/nfs-handler included in the archive) I somehow >didn't get the newest dnet onto my Amiga and it wouldn't work. Once >I got all the newer versions installed, everything worked as I described >earlier (i.e. dnet works, amiga clients work, and UNIX clients work from >an fterm window, but not from the Sun). > > I've never been able to get nfs-handler to work. Anyone else? > > Jim Blair and I now have DNET working between his Amiga and Vaxen running the Waterloo version of 4.3BSD. The nfs-handler wouldn't work at first. It hung while reading from the DNET connection. Our debugging efforts discovered a problem with structure alignment and stuff, not to mention byte-ordering between the Amiga and the Vax. I've hacked up the Unix side (snfs) as well as the nfs-handler on the Amiga side to allow it to work (and work properly). I haven't fixed all the bugs yet, but it's basically working. I changed the object locking/opening/examining/examining next code to make it work better. I haven't tried compiling and running the modified version on any other version of Unix, so I don't know if it is portable. I'm using the internet byte ordering macros for communicating words and longs between the Amiga and Vax, so it SHOULD work. Hamish. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hamish Macdonald. watmath!grand!himacdonald himacdonald@grand.waterloo.edu "Guns seldom solve any problems; they merely decide whose will shall
bmacintyre@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Blair MacIntyre) (12/16/89)
akl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Rob Tillotson) writes: >In article <19234@watdragon.waterloo.edu> bmacintyre@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Blair MacIntyre) writes: >>So, now I had the entire newest version installed. >>And now nothing works ... >>- when I run the newest version, the Vax kicks me out! No core file, >> no nothing. > > You know, this sounds very familiar. When the first 7-bit version, it >worked fine for me, but of course the nfs-handler was not there. Then, I >picked up the new version and installed the new dnet binary. Much to my >surprise, as soon as it started up, it opened the fterm window, exchanged some >data, then disconnected me. Ok, the problem for me was this: For some reason, starting dnet on the Amiga with "run dnet" No args! worked. When the new version fixed some bugs, I am now required to explicitely specify the protocol and parity "run dnet -P0 -Z2" Works! >I put back the old dnet executable and tried >nfs-handler... upon mounting NF0: and cd'ing to it, a bunch of data is >exchanged (and a few things written to the NFS log file; I recompiled the >server with the DEBUG option on) but the Amiga end just hangs forever until >dnet is killed, at which time I get a typical "NF0: not found" message from cd. Hamish (my officemate) describes the solution to this problem in another article. In a nutshell, byte ordering differences between the Vax and the 68000 are the root of the problem. He fixed it. I'm too lazy. :-) > By the way, I am running dnet on a Sequent Symmetry running Dynix >(pretty much 4.3bsd), and am connected by a dialup connection through an >AT&T Information Systems Network which gives a 7-bit even parity link with >XON/XOFF flow control... Definately specify -P0 and -Z2 then ... Blair, procrastinating from doing that essay! -- -- Blair MacIntyre, Professional Leech on Society ( aka CS Graduate Student ) -- bmacintyre@{watcgl, watdragon, violet}.{waterloo.edu, UWaterloo.ca} -- Date, verb: prearranged socializing with intent.
tron1@tronsbox.UUCP (HIM) (12/21/89)
> Did you install the new DNET executables on both ends? When I went to >the newest version (w/nfs-handler included in the archive) I somehow >didn't get the newest dnet onto my Amiga and it wouldn't work. Once BTW -- has anyone done a SYS V port of DNET yet ?? **************************************************************************** "Perfume and leather baby , you and me together baby, what good is living in paradise, if you don't let yourself once or twice." -Tiffany Kenneth J. Jamieson ---- THE BOSS at Xanadu Enterprises Inc. UUCP: tron1@tronsbox.UUCP BEST PATH ---> uunet!tronsbox!tron1 Sysop, The Penthouse ]I[ BBS - (201)759-8450 / (201)759-8568 ****************************************************************************