robert@madnix.UUCP (Robert Moldenhauer) (12/06/89)
I am tired of programs that are in reality betaware being passed off as a finished
Product. UltraCard gurus all the time, has a miserable instruction manual and
is slower than Dan Quayle. The developers disk they promised to ship in July
still isn't here and I am thoroughly pissed off at Jay Minor for letting his
name be associated with this junkware. My advice, save your US$ 50 and wait
for CanDo.
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Robert Moldenhauer One People
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Madison, Wis 53705 USA Please!
BITNET: rmoldenhauer@WISCMACC INTERNET: rmoldenhauer@VMS.MACC.WISC.EDUlphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (12/07/89)
In <1989Dec8.054408.28663@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu>, hgm@ccvr1.uucp (Hal G. Meeks) writes: >I have downloaded the CanDo! demo that is floating around. Worth taking a >look at. It appears to easily surpass Ultracard in capabilities and overall >"look". It also doesn't look a thing like Hypercard. It looks a lot better. > >I'm wondering if anyone actually has had a chance to use it yet, and would >be willing to pass along some notes. It's on my purchase list for the coming >year. >From a message in Inovatronics' conference on Bix... ------ TITLE: CANDO CANDO SHIPPED ON 12/7/89, I'm going to sleep now... Eddie Churchill INOVAtronic, Inc. ------ -larry -- " All I ask of my body is that it carry around my head." - Thomas Alva Edison - +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
hgm@ccvr1.uucp (Hal G. Meeks) (12/08/89)
In article <985@madnix.UUCP> robert@madnix.UUCP (Robert Moldenhauer) writes: >I am tired of programs that are in reality betaware being passed off as a finished >Product. UltraCard gurus all the time, has a miserable instruction manual and >is slower than Dan Quayle. The developers disk they promised to ship in July >still isn't here and I am thoroughly pissed off at Jay Minor for letting his >name be associated with this junkware. My advice, save your US$ 50 and wait >for CanDo. > I have downloaded the CanDo! demo that is floating around. Worth taking a look at. It appears to easily surpass Ultracard in capabilities and overall "look". It also doesn't look a thing like Hypercard. It looks a lot better. I'm wondering if anyone actually has had a chance to use it yet, and would be willing to pass along some notes. It's on my purchase list for the coming year. --hal --------------- hgm@ccvr1.ncsu.edu "The fittest shall survive, netoprhm@ncsuvm.bitnet yet the unfit may live." --Devo
amercer@thor.wright.edu (Art Mercer) (12/08/89)
From article <985@madnix.UUCP>, by robert@madnix.UUCP (Robert Moldenhauer): >> I am tired of programs that are in reality betaware being passed off as a finished >> Product. UltraCard gurus all the time, has a miserable instruction manual and >> is slower than Dan Quayle. The developers disk they promised to ship in July >> still isn't here and I am thoroughly pissed off at Jay Minor for letting his >> name be associated with this junkware. My advice, save your US$ 50 and wait >> for CanDo. >> >> -- >> Robert Moldenhauer One People Right on Robert! In fact, I have UltraCard and a letter packaged and ready to send back. I have taken a zero tolerance stand with this kind of trash. I've tried using UltraCard on 4 different Amiga's, all with the same results. What I have started doing is to let the developer's know that I want nothing more from them, not an update, refund, NOTHING! And that I'll not purchase any further products from the company. Besides being a royal pain for us long time Amiga users, software this flakey really puts off first-time buyers and strengthens the myth that the Amiga is not a "stable" machine. I've been in the computing business for more than 15 years and have learned not to expect perfect - bug free software, but I do expect it to be somewhat usable. In a time when the honest supportive developers ( and the Amiga itself) are struggling, we need fewer stories like yours and mine. Art Mercer Associate Director, Academic Computing Resources Wright State University Col. Glenn Hwy Dayton, OH 45435 BITNET: amercer@wsu.bitnet ---
aaalexis@sactoh0.UUCP (Andrew A. Alexis) (12/14/89)
In article <871@thor.wright.EDU>, amercer@thor.wright.edu (Art Mercer) writes: > From article <985@madnix.UUCP>, by robert@madnix.UUCP (Robert Moldenhauer): > >> I am tired of programs that are in reality betaware being passed off as a finished > >> Product. UltraCard gurus all the time, has a miserable instruction manual and > >> is slower than Dan Quayle. The developers disk they promised to ship in July > >> still isn't here and I am thoroughly pissed off at Jay Minor for letting his > >> name be associated with this junkware. My advice, save your US$ 50 and wait > >> for CanDo. > > Right on Robert! In fact, I have UltraCard and a letter packaged and ready > to send back. I have taken a zero tolerance stand with this kind of trash. I spent a couple of wasted evenings trying in vain to generate a simple stack, consisting of a button that flips from one card to another. GURU city! This is part of the reason why the thousands of stacks promised in what little documentation is available have never appeared: no one can keep the program from crashing for long enough to save the file! I find the developer's pleas on other networks(CI$,etc) that he is just a small developer unconvincing. Part of developing a program is doing it right-debugging it first, hiring an artist to provide some decent artwork, hiring someone to write a manual. Ironically, my first exposure to ultracard was at the amiga fair in San Francisco last February. The developer was demonstrating it for passers by, and even he couldn't keep it from crashing! -- Andy Alexis UUCP:ames!pacbell!sactoh0!aaalexis ======================================================= "Toto kansasoseum non est cognito" -- Farley =======================================================
BAXTER_A@wehi.dn.mu.oz (12/16/89)
In article <2233@sactoh0.UUCP>, aaalexis@sactoh0.UUCP (Andrew A. Alexis) writes: > In article <871@thor.wright.EDU>, amercer@thor.wright.edu (Art Mercer) writes: >> From article <985@madnix.UUCP>, by robert@madnix.UUCP (Robert Moldenhauer): >> >> I am tired of programs that are in reality betaware being passed off as a finished >> >> Product. UltraCard gurus all the time, has a miserable instruction manual and >> >> is slower than Dan Quayle. The developers disk they promised to ship in July >> >> still isn't here and I am thoroughly pissed off at Jay Minor for letting his >> >> name be associated with this junkware. My advice, save your US$ 50 and wait >> >> for CanDo. >> >> Right on Robert! In fact, I have UltraCard and a letter packaged and ready >> to send back. I have taken a zero tolerance stand with this kind of trash. > I spent a couple of wasted evenings trying in vain to generate a > simple stack, consisting of a button that flips from one card to > another. GURU city! This is part of the reason why the thousands > of stacks promised in what little documentation is available have > never appeared: no one can keep the program from crashing for long > enough to save the file! I find the developer's pleas on other > networks(CI$,etc) that he is just a small developer unconvincing. > Part of developing a program is doing it right-debugging it first, > hiring an artist to provide some decent artwork, hiring someone to > write a manual. Ironically, my first exposure to ultracard was at > the amiga fair in San Francisco last February. The developer was > demonstrating it for passers by, and even he couldn't keep it from > crashing! > > > -- > Andy Alexis UUCP:ames!pacbell!sactoh0!aaalexis > ======================================================= > "Toto kansasoseum non est cognito" -- Farley > ======================================================= My stack was even easier. All I tried to do was load a backgroung iff file!! It's a good thing I've got a robust hard disk, or I could have lost a lot of data. UltraCARD is absolute shit. I've sent it back. Regards Alan
ralph@atrp.mit.edu (Ralph L. Vinciguerra) (12/22/89)
Geese. I went and ordered this thing, and before I even get it everyone whose touched it is bummed. Anyone have a phone number we can call to inform the writers of ultracard that they've goofed up, and need to re-release immediately? I want this kind of funtionality, so I won't return my copy if the writer is working hard to correct the problems. It's probably a pretty complex program... Let's give them some informative feedback first and give them a chance. Then....if no results....whammo: my money back please.