[comp.sys.amiga] Sozobon C, aka Zc

martens@ketch.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) (11/29/89)

Does anybody have any experience with the Sozobon C compiler (Fred
Fish disk 193)?  e-mail responses, and if there's enough response to
warrent, I'll post a summary.  Thanks.
-=-
-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)

With the 11/89 issue, the Communications of the ACM has finally become
100% devoid of computer science.

jlydiatt@jlami.wimsey.bc.ca (Jeff Lydiatt) (01/02/90)

In <74481@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> martens@ketch.cis.ohio-state.edu
(Jeff Martens) writes:

> Does anybody have any experience with the Sozobon C compiler (Fred
> Fish disk 193)?  e-mail responses, and if there's enough response to
> warrent, I'll post a summary.  Thanks.

[ summary of responses omitted ]

(Sorry I missed this thread or I would have replied earlier, Jeff.)

I made quite a few changes to the version on Fred Fish disk #193 to make
the output of the Sozobon compiler recognizable to Charlie Gibbs' A68k
assembler which generates Amiga-Hunk binary.  I also ported Dale
Schumacher's standard library, and the optimizer (top) that was on the same
disk to the Amiga.  When used with the freely distributable version of
Software Distilleries, Blink, it is possible to compile, assemble, link and
run fairly sophisticated C source programs such as A68k.

I shar'ed the whole package and shipped it off to comp.sources.amiga at the
beginning of July last year.  That was about the start of the drought in
amiga sources, and it still has yet to be posted.  The package included a
small program that makes it possible it create the equivalent of
"amiga.lib" from the ".fd" files that are included with the standard
workbench set.

In late October, I received some mail from Johann Reugg, the author of
Sozobon-C, that a new version would be out shortly in usenet atari sources.
The new version fixes several bugs, and makes several improvements in the
optimizer, and should have been out within a the following month.  I've
signed up for atari sources, but yet to see the new version.

So,
keeping in mind that I've been put in charge of an absorbing (but of
course time-consuming) 9 month project at work.  I guess my questions are:

1) Should I wait until the new version of Sozoban-C shows up in the
   Usenet Atari ST sources, and hope I have the time to add the changes to
   the Amiga version?

2) Will the old (July 89) version eventually show up in comp.sys.amiga
   so I can add and post Johann's changes at leasure?

3) Should I repost the present version (with a few minor fixes)?

4) Should I send the old version to Fred Fish.  Fred seems to be more
   dependable at getting amiga software out to the Amiga community?
   (Take a well deserved bow, Fred).

5Suggestions welcome ... 

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a45@mindlink.UUCP (Ken Cooper) (01/03/90)

Here's a few name suggestions for your new series...

        The "Cannery" series
        "Fish Plus" or "FFplus"

I have several more, but these only happen after ones signs off from a message
:)

fnf@estinc.UUCP (Fred Fish) (01/04/90)

I tried following up to this by email but something in Jeff's return path
wasn't kosher, and there was no phone number, so ...

In article <669@jlami.wimsey.bc.ca> jlydiatt@jlami.wimsey.bc.ca (Jeff Lydiatt) writes:
>
>4) Should I send the old version to Fred Fish.  Fred seems to be more
>   dependable at getting amiga software out to the Amiga community?
>   (Take a well deserved bow, Fred).

Thanks!  Yes, I would very much like to see a copy of this, and will arrange
to put it into either the "traditional" library, or the new series that I'm
still trying to get off the ground, containing larger demos, animations, pics,
etc.  Hope to have something in place for this new series in the next week
or two.  I'm also still looking for a name for it, so suggestions are 
solicited.

-Fred
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# 1-602-491-0048           asuvax!{nud,mcdphx}!estinc!fnf

rusty@fe2o3.UUCP (Rusty Haddock) (01/05/90)

In article <255@estinc.UUCP> fnf@estinc.UUCP (Fred Fish) writes:
   >to put it into either the "traditional" library, or the new series that I'm
   >still trying to get off the ground, containing larger demos, animations, pics,
   >etc.  Hope to have something in place for this new series in the next week
   >or two.  I'm also still looking for a name for it, so suggestions are 
   >solicited.

Well, I thought that would be obvious... larger demos, etc from 
Fred Fish should be Whale* Disks and part of a Whale Pod.
And you can get them for a song... :-)

Yes, I did this on porpoise*!

Sorry, but I couldn't resist.  But still....
Oh well, I can hear the groans coming in.

			-Rusty Haddock-
			Where fish and steel mill meet.

* Yes, I know whales, porpoises, et al are not fish.
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