okay@tafs.mitre.org (Okay, S J) (01/16/90)
>From: MTR780::WINS%"waynekn%tekig5.pen.tek.com%mwunix@mwvm.mitre.org" 10-JAN-1990 18:22:52.45 >To: OKAY >CC: >Subj: Re: A new Amiga from Japan? > >Return-Path: <@mwvm.mitre.org:WAYNEKN%TEKIG5.PEN.TEK.COM@MWUNIX> >Received: from mwvm.mitre.org by tafs with SMTP ; Wed, 10 Jan 90 18:22:29 WET >Received: from MWVM by mwvm.mitre.org (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 7137; Wed, 10 Jan 90 13:22:33 EST >Date: Wednesday, 10 Jan 1990 13:22:32 EST >From: waynekn%tekig5.pen.tek.com%mwunix@mwvm.mitre.org (waynekn at tekig5.pen.tek.com@MWUNIX) >To: okay@tafs (OKAY at TAFS) >Subject: Re: A new Amiga from Japan? >X-Away: Originally to "amiga-relay@udel.edu" > >In article <25aa930b.37ff@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU>, cknight@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU >(King Claudius) writes: >> >> I'm sorry, but this FM Towns sounds just like another >> PC clone to me...what's the big deal with it? > >At the lowest level it could be considered just a PC clone, however at the >higher end from the stuff I saw, it breaks ground that Amiga can't even >begin to tread in. From the things I saw I would have to say that the >FM Towns is far more suited for Video/Animation/Sound Production/Multi- >Tasking/Multi-Media applications than the Amiga is. The big deal is that >I never realised just how far behind the Amiga is getting until I saw the >FM Towns. > >Also I saw some pretty good graphics on the NEC computers, but I think >the FM Towns is a system that really has all the things needed to be a >great desktop Multi-Media system with adding massive amounts of hardware >or software. >However, as an aside I should say that the Japanese computers have always >been ahead in graphics at least in the small computer area. Japanese >computer hardware seems to be really good stuff. I saw genlocking of >computer graphics onto video in 1984 on cheap MSX computers, it must have >been late 1986 before it was easy to get a genlock for the Amiga. > > Wayne Knapp Sounds great, and I'm sure it is, but the question is....how much will this affect us here in the US and in Europe???--Unless I'm gravely mistaken, the two are very separate markets. As somebody mentioned earlier, nobody over there seems to have heard of the Amiga, nor us their shiny new machine. I remember back in '83 or '84 a lot of the trade magazines saying that the Japanese were coming and that MSX was going to take over the home computing world and crush the US manufacturers into silicon dust....Well, I'm not using an MSX machine, and my US keyboard is still the default keyboard, not an option, so...... Not that that was the first time the Japanese tried to penetrate the U.S. market either. Sony made a valient attempt at about the same time the A1000 came out and got crushed in the onslaught of cheap AT clones. I'm not questioning whether or not the FMTowns is a flashy piece of silicon or that the basic Amy is getting a little long in the tooth and in need of new blood. Both are true.(If what we've heard about FMTowns is completely accurate). WHat I'm saying is that we should all be a little careful before we start Panicking in the proverbial streets and predicting the eletronic avenues to run red with CBMs blood. I'd be interested in knowing what the japanese market penetration is over in Europe. I know that next to cheap Taiwanese MS-DROSS clones, the US is basically occupied by US computers(when was the last time you met somebody in the states that had a Sinclair 7200 or a Dragon??). (Mainframes and minis are a different story...I know of places that have a few NixDorf boxes and the like). ---Steve --------------- Stephen Okay OKAY@TAFS.MITRE.ORG "I wept because I had no shoes, until I met a man that had no feet...so I said 'Hey man!, got any shoes you're not using?'" Disclaimer:Yeah, I was always taught to share, but I've never felt very generous with my opinions....
d87-khd@sm.luth.se (Karl-Gunnar Hultland) (01/16/90)
In article <8263@nigel.udel.EDU> okay@tafs.mitre.org (Okay, S J) writes: > >I'd be interested in knowing what the japanese market penetration is over in >Europe. Well in Sweden the penetration is virtually ZERO. (I dont know so much about messyDOS clones though...) The Amiga sales are going up, and the A***i is shrinking down were it should be. The game importers are taking in less and less A****i programs 'cause they don't sell enough. And the store where I work on my spare times sells 4 Amiga programs for each ST program. In Sweden the Amiga is still going strong! Karl <$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$> < Karl 'Kalle' Hultland <$> > < Dept. of Comp. sci. <$> d87-khd@sm.luth.se | > < University of Lulea <$> {uunet,mcvax}!sunic.se!sm.luth.se!d87-khd > < Sweden <$> > <$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$> < If two people agree on EVERYTHING , one of them is OBSOLETE!! > <$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$><$>