lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (02/08/90)
In <1990Feb8.150815.18381@lth.se>, f88ho@lo-2.efd.lth.se (Hans Olsson) writes: >Sometimes I have problems with programs (games and demos) that uses the disk >(at least the green light is on) all the time, so I don't know how to get the >disk out without hurting my amiga. >I have tried first resetting the amiga and then ejecting the disk but >sometimes I end up with a diskdrive that simply can't read anything without >several C-A-As. >Do anyone know a better way to get the disk out? Press the eject button. Seriously. The thing is, you will not 'hurt your Amiga' by ejecting a disk, whether the light is on or not, despite warnings to the contrary. Do not take this to mean that ejecting the disk while the light is on is A Good Thing, because it usually isn't. However, what we appear to be talking about here is an unusual situation. Some program has messed up or was written in a way that doesn't turn the light off, or perhaps you have a hardware problem. If the light is on, it means that some code has turned it on. This will happen if the disk is being read or written. If it is being read, the worst that will happen is that a read error will occur, and you will be asked (sometimes strongly) to replace it. If it was being written, the worst that will happen is that you will get a write error, and the disk will be unreadable later. If you are lucky, you will be asked to replace the disk, and the write operation will finish. If you are not so lucky, the diskette will have read problems, but that will be true with a reset too. Note that the reset (three fingered or power off/on) will do essentially the same thing to a disk that is being written to. Program activity stops, and nothing further has a chance to be written to the disk. At least with the eject button, you have a chance of having everything turn out OK. The warnings against ejecting the disk while the light is on are definitely to be heeded during 'normal' operation. -larry -- Gallium Aresnide is the technology of the future; always has been, always will be. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
f88ho@lo-2.efd.lth.se (Hans Olsson) (02/08/90)
Sometimes I have problems with programs (games and demos) that uses the disk (at least the green light is on) all the time, so I don't know how to get the disk out without hurting my amiga. I have tried first resetting the amiga and then ejecting the disk but sometimes I end up with a diskdrive that simply can't read anything without several C-A-As. Do anyone know a better way to get the disk out? ------ Hans Olsson Email: f88ho@efd.lth.se "1 line .sigs are best" ordinary mail: KAEMNAERSVAEGEN 8:118, 222 45 LUND,SWEDEN.
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (02/09/90)
In <10663@nigel.udel.EDU>, new@udel.edu (Darren New) writes: >In article <1114@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca> lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: >>The thing is, you will not 'hurt your Amiga' by ejecting a disk, whether the >>light is on or not, despite warnings to the contrary. > >Oh, I beg to differ! I once ejected a disk with the light on and caused serious >damage to the floppy. I managed to unclip the clip that holds the head assembly >to the drive. Only with the help of an electronics surgeon was I able to >get the thing reclipped without a $100 charge from a repair center. >I think it is much better to reset and then pop the disk than it is to >pop the disk with the light on. -- Darren Beg to differ all you want, but I tell you there is no difference between ejecting the drive with the light on or with it off, in any physical way. The heads are not of the 'load when in use', 'unload when idle' variety. They are always 'loaded' and in contact with the disk. If you press the eject, the same things happen whether the light is on or not (execpt that if you are writiing, you will end up with a clobbered track. I once did exactly the same thing as you did, but while the light was off and the drive was not spinning (I fixed it myself). -larry -- Gallium Aresnide is the technology of the future; always has been, always will be. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
new@udel.edu (Darren New) (02/10/90)
In article <1114@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca> lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: >The thing is, you will not 'hurt your Amiga' by ejecting a disk, whether the >light is on or not, despite warnings to the contrary. Oh, I beg to differ! I once ejected a disk with the light on and caused serious damage to the floppy. I managed to unclip the clip that holds the head assembly to the drive. Only with the help of an electronics surgeon was I able to get the thing reclipped without a $100 charge from a repair center. I think it is much better to reset and then pop the disk than it is to pop the disk with the light on. -- Darren