ggibeau@ucqais.uc.edu (AMOEBOID) (02/06/90)
If the reason CBM is orphaning the A-1000 with the latest
trade-in deal is because 1.4 will require 512K ROM space, there
are alternatives. Get rid of the daughterboard and insert
ROM inside, or replace daughterboard altogether.
While it is VERY DECENT of them to offer to buy back your
A-1000's for one last go-around (how many other companies
have ever done this once, let alone twice), in some instances
it may not be economically feasible. If you have lots of money
tied up in expansion devices, it may not be worth it to upgrade
to a 2000.
However, if you have a stock 1000 and have been teetering on the edge
of upgrading, then this is a pretty good deal. $999 plus your
A-1000 for a 2000, and you can go with a higher system for
a bit more money.
George
p.s. and for our next hack, a 1000 replacement keyboard :-)
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-----BUT, not at the same time!martens@navajo.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) (02/06/90)
In article <2292@ucqais.uc.edu> ggibeau@ucqais.uc.edu (AMOEBOID) writes: [ ... ] >p.s. and for our next hack, a 1000 replacement keyboard :-) Sign me up! -=- -- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu) Former Ohio State Rep. Robert E. Hagan compares Dan Quayle with "that strange spare tire you get with your car. You know it's there, but you hope you never have to use it."
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (02/06/90)
In article <2292@ucqais.uc.edu> ggibeau@ucqais.uc.edu (AMOEBOID) writes: >However, if you have a stock 1000 and have been teetering on the edge >of upgrading, then this is a pretty good deal. $999 plus your >A-1000 for a 2000, and you can go with a higher system for >a bit more money. If you are interested, these are the details: Trade-in Plus cash For Retail Value Savings ------------------------------------------------------------------- A1000+$2999 A2500/30 $4699 $1700 A1000+$1599 A2000HD $2699 $1100 A1000+$ 999 A2000 $1899 $ 900 Contact your local Amiga delaer for the trade-up, effective Feb. 2 through March 31, 1990. Seems like a pretty good deal to me. Enjoy. -- marco -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Xerox sues somebody for copying?" -- David Letterman -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
vmr@psuhcx.psu.edu (Victor M. Ricker) (02/06/90)
I love my A1000 keyboard! I think its one of the best I have ever used. Will it work on the A2000? If the A2000 keyboard is anything like the A500 then I'd sooner die than upgrade! -Vic Ricker vmr@hcx.psu.edu
portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) (02/06/90)
>>>>> On 6 Feb 90 04:24:25 GMT, ggibeau@ucqais.uc.edu (AMOEBOID) said:
g> If the reason CBM is orphaning the A-1000 with the latest
g> trade-in deal is because 1.4 will require 512K ROM space, there
g> are alternatives. Get rid of the daughterboard and insert
g> ROM inside, or replace daughterboard altogether.
I seem to remember hearing (from someone at Commodore no less) that
the A1000 could support 512K ROMS, but that there were no sockets on
the motherboard for the other 256K. That doesn't sound like an
insurmountable problem.
Wouldn't it also be possible to make 256K of those ROMS into
disk-loadable libraries on the A1000? I have a hard disk, I don't
care where the machine gets its libraries from.
g> While it is VERY DECENT of them to offer to buy back your
g> A-1000's for one last go-around (how many other companies
g> have ever done this once, let alone twice), in some instances
g> it may not be economically feasible. If you have lots of money
g> tied up in expansion devices, it may not be worth it to upgrade
g> to a 2000.
For me, I've whittled down my expansion devices to a single Starboard
II on the bus, which I can move to an A2000 if I want. Still, I don't
really want to upgrade, because upgrading to an A2000 is purchasing
hardware expandability I don't want or need. I don't see any reasons
why the A1000 cannot continue to have the same operating system as the
other Amigas.
Could it be possible for Commodore to release some official statement
about planned software support for the A1000?
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"Why you? Because you're Electro-Cop, the best there is."vincel@frodo.uucp (02/06/90)
My local dealer hasn't heard of this yet so maybe someone out there can
answer this question. Do these trade-in prices refer to the same
packages documented w/ the educational discount (i.e. A2000 = A2000 +
monitor + extra drive etc...) or just to the machine alone.
Gracias,
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Vince Layton
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vmr@psuhcx.psu.edu (Victor M. Ricker) writes:
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< I love my A1000 keyboard! I think its one of the best I have ever used.
< Will it work on the A2000? If the A2000 keyboard is anything like the
< A500 then I'd sooner die than upgrade!
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< -Vic Ricker vmr@hcx.psu.edu
While I've never fiddled much with the A500, I can say that I do prefer
the keyboard on my 2500 to the keyboard on my trusty old A1000 (sitting
across the room). Also, I think it would be worth considering the upgrade
even if you do prefer the older keyboard. After all, is the keyboard
more important than possibility for future operating system upgrades?
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Yeah. Some of us DO have some money tied up (read: locked up) in A1000 specific devices. Though I believe I can use my hard disk with an A2000 if'n I get a different controller? I have 2MB of external memory from Expansion Technologies, a Supra SCSI controller, and a Seagate 80M HD. How much of THAT can I use with a 2000? I had visions of (If I ever found the time and the gumption) to make an attempt at my own OS on the A1000, with my own kickstart. (I just thought about it, don't even know if'n that woulda been feasible.) Can't do that on a 2000 with a ROM. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ah, Benson, you are so mercifully free of the ravages of intellegence!" "Oh, thank you, Master!" - from the movie, TIME BANDITS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- dueker@xenon.arc.nasa.gov | Chris Dueker (The Code Slinger) dueker%xen@ames.arc.nasa.gov | Computer Sciences Corp. dueker@xen.span.nasa.gov | Mtn. View, CA dueker@128.102.28.26 | dueker%24615.hepnet@lbl.gov | duke@well.sf.ca.us |
phorgan@cup.portal.com (Patrick John Horgan) (02/07/90)
Does the A2500/30 come with a hard drive?
nfs1675@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil ( Michael S Figg) (02/07/90)
In article <2059@psuhcx.psu.edu>, vmr@psuhcx.psu.edu (Victor M. Ricker) writes: > > I love my A1000 keyboard! I think its one of the best I have ever used. > Will it work on the A2000? If the A2000 keyboard is anything like the > A500 then I'd sooner die than upgrade! > From what was mentioned at a local users group meeting here about the upgrade, it sounds like Commodore wants your keyboard for the trade-in, not the CPU. It sounds like there might be some consideration to letting the owner keeping the keyboard also though. I wasn't paying close attention because I sold my 1000 to a friend and went with the upgrade the first time around. -- "Could we be the bellwether | Michael Figg DSAC-FSD of major societal shifts?" | DLA Systems Automation Center - Columbus,Oh mfigg@dsacg2.dsac.dla.mil
gerber@buzzer.enet.dec.com (Robert M. Gerber) (02/07/90)
In article <26672@cup.portal.com>, phorgan@cup.portal.com (Patrick John Horgan) writes: > Does the A2500/30 come with a hard drive? The latest A2000HD and A2500/30 come with a 40MB HD mounted on the A2091 controller card. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Robert M. Gerber UUCP: ...!decwrl!oldjon.enet!gerber INET: gerber@oldjon.enet.dec.com Any opinions represented here are definetly not those of my employer. Come to think of it, they may not be mine either!
horalek@Alliant.COM (Jim Horalek) (02/08/90)
I'm ready to get rid of my A1000. To bad CBM doesn't offer to use the A1000 to discount their other hardware. I would love to add a 20/30 processor to my A2000. jim
davidb@hplsla.HP.COM (David Bakeman) (02/08/90)
>/ hplsla:comp.sys.amiga / papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) / 10:04 pm Feb 5, 1990 / >In article <2292@ucqais.uc.edu> ggibeau@ucqais.uc.edu (AMOEBOID) writes: >>However, if you have a stock 1000 and have been teetering on the edge >>of upgrading, then this is a pretty good deal. $999 plus your >>A-1000 for a 2000, and you can go with a higher system for >>a bit more money. > >If you are interested, these are the details: > >Trade-in Plus cash For Retail Value Savings >------------------------------------------------------------------- >A1000+$2999 A2500/30 $4699 $1700 >A1000+$1599 A2000HD $2699 $1100 >A1000+$ 999 A2000 $1899 $ 900 > I don't know. I bought my A2000 about a month and a half ago and paid $1338 including shipping. Also about 3 and half weeks ago I saw that a local dealor here had A2000s for $1250 |<( Anyway $250 for my A1000 doesn't sound so good at those prices. >Contact your local Amiga delaer for the trade-up, effective Feb. 2 through >March 31, 1990. > >Seems like a pretty good deal to me. > >Enjoy. > >-- marco >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >"Xerox sues somebody for copying?" -- David Letterman >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >---------- David Bakeman
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (02/08/90)
In article <3670@alliant.Alliant.COM> horalek@alliant.Alliant.COM (Jim Horalek) writes: > >I'm ready to get rid of my A1000. To bad CBM doesn't offer to use the A1000 >to discount their other hardware. I would love to add a 20/30 processor to >my A2000. Sell your A2000, then use the A1000 to save another $1700 off the $4699 list price of the A2500/30. -- Marco -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Xerox sues somebody for copying?" -- David Letterman -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (02/09/90)
I plan on keeping my Amiga 1000. In a few years it will be a collector item! I can see myself dragging out my old trusty Amiga 1000 in 30 years and showing it to my grandchildren. "Gee Gramps! My watch can do more than that box!" "Yea sonny, back when I was a kid we didn't have all those newfangled gadjets. we had to be happy with floppy drives and 640 x 400 graphics" And I can show them the signatures inside the lid, haha. Meanwhile it will make a pretty darn good video game after I get my 2000. -- John Sparks | D.I.S.K. 24hrs 1200bps. Accessable via Starlink (Louisville KY) sparks@corpane.UUCP <><><><><><><><><><><> D.I.S.K. ph:502/968-5401 thru -5406 Build something that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it.
oliver@tlab1.cs.unc.edu (Bill Oliver) (02/10/90)
In article <1414@corpane.UUCP> sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: > >I plan on keeping my Amiga 1000. In a few years it will be a collector item! > >I can see myself dragging out my old trusty Amiga 1000 in 30 years and showing >it to my grandchildren. > >"Gee Gramps! My watch can do more than that box!" > >"Yea sonny, back when I was a kid we didn't have all those newfangled gadjets. >we had to be happy with floppy drives and 640 x 400 graphics" > Yeah, I still have, get this, an Exidy Sorcerer (yes, Virginia, they made home computers before Apple). I use it when I teach an introductory computer course for non-technical types because every chip on the motherboard is labelled. It's great. "See here, where it says 'RAM?' Well, those little chips there are the RAM chips." Bill Oliver
phorgan@cup.portal.com (Patrick John Horgan) (02/11/90)
I asked my local dealer, (HT Electronics), if I could trade in my 1000 without the top cover, and they said sure! I'll be happy to show the signatures to my grandchildren and I'll still get to upgrade:) Patrick Horgan phorgan@cup.portal.com
portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) (02/12/90)
>>>>> On 8 Feb 90 17:24:00 GMT, sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) said:
john> I plan on keeping my Amiga 1000. In a few years it will be a collector item!
That's *exactly* why I'm keeping mine. They should be even more
collector-worthy, given that Commodore is continually offering
incentives to pull more and more of them out of service.
According to the message I read here that was written by Greg Tibbs,
the Rejuvinator card will have an A500/2000 compatible ROM socket as
well as offering ECS. $499 for upgrading with Rejuvinator is much
cheaper than Commodore's A2000 upgrade.
Note that I am not flaming Commodore -- they are doing a wonderful
thing for us A1000 owners by offering the upgrade. I would be most
happy if I wanted to move to an A2000. But some of us simply love our
A1000's and won't give them up.
--M
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