[comp.sys.amiga] Can I read/write Mac disks on my Amiga drive?

rhp@INEL.GOV (Robert Powell) (02/01/90)

Hello,

I need to transfer ASCII files between my Amiga 500 and a Macintosh SE.
I do not yet have a modem, so I am trying to find a PD (or relatively
cheap) program that will let me read/write Mac disks on my A500.  I am
aware of AMAX, however, I would rather buy a modem than buy AMAX.  Since
the only reason I have to get a modem is for this file transfer, I would
rather save my money.  I seem to recall a PD program that does what I want.
Note:  I want to be able to do this on my stock A500 disk drive.

Please, anyone who can help me, email back to me (or post if you must).

Bob

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terry@helios.ucsc.edu (Terry Ricketts) (02/03/90)

In article <347@egg-idINEL.GOV> rhp@INEL.GOV (Robert Powell) writes:

>I need to transfer ASCII files between my Amiga 500 and a Macintosh SE.
>I do not yet have a modem, so I am trying to find a PD (or relatively
>cheap) program that will let me read/write Mac disks on my A500.  I am
>aware of AMAX, however, I would rather buy a modem than buy AMAX.  Since
>the only reason I have to get a modem is for this file transfer, I would
>rather save my money.  I seem to recall a PD program that does what I want.
>Note:  I want to be able to do this on my stock A500 disk drive.
>

	Unfortunately the Mac drive has a variable speed. Thus you cannot
write more than a few tracks on any other computer before running into one
that needs a speed change. It is for this reason that Amax needs a real
Mac drive to read or write Mac format disks. Another choice is Mac-Dos from
Central Coast Software which also uses a real Mac drive to do the transfer.
	Another cheaper choice is to connect a RS-232 cable between the
Mac and your Amiga, being sure to swap the proper lines. Then using any good
terminal program you can transfer files directly without needing a modem. The
speed can then be set as high as your computers can handle. Too bad there is
not something equivalent to Dnet for the Mac, that would make it even easier.

brianr@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM (Brian E Rhodefer) (02/05/90)

Sorry, folks, the return address wouldn't work...

In article <347@egg-idINEL.GOV> rhp@INEL.GOV (Robert Powell) writes:

>
>I need to transfer ASCII files between my Amiga 500 and a Macintosh SE.
>I do not yet have a modem, so I am trying to find a PD (or relatively
>cheap) program that will let me read/write Mac disks on my A500.  I am
>aware of AMAX, however, I would rather buy a modem than buy AMAX.  Since
>the only reason I have to get a modem is for this file transfer, I would
>rather save my money.

If both computers are physically adjacent, you don't need any modems:
an RS-232 hardline connection from one to the other, and a terminal emulator
package with compatible upload/download protocols for each machine ought
to work nicely.  I say 'ought' because I'm not familiar with Macs.  Set
each to the same baud rate (the higher the better), and twiddle around in
the usual way that you must in order to allow two devices that
implement the RS-232 "standard" to communicate.

Brian Rhodefer

crs@cpsc6a.att.com (Chris (The Home of the Killer Smiley) Seaman) (02/06/90)

terry@helios.ucsc.edu (Terry Ricketts) writes:
< rhp@INEL.GOV (Robert Powell) writes:
< < [ Questions about reading/writing Mac disks on an Amiga... ]
< 
< 	Unfortunately the Mac drive has a variable speed. Thus you cannot
< write more than a few tracks on any other computer before running into one
< that needs a speed change. It is for this reason that Amax needs a real
< Mac drive to read or write Mac format disks. Another choice is Mac-Dos from
< Central Coast Software which also uses a real Mac drive to do the transfer.

I have long been aware of the variable speed problem regarding Mac/Amiga
transfers, but I have recently read something that has me thoroughly
confused.  While 'checking out the competition', I read a review of a
package for the Atari ST that claims to read Mac disks in the Atari
internal drive, and execute Mac software via emulation.  I don't recall
the name of the package, but apparently it consists of nothing more than a
cartridge (there is no Mac drive required).  So, how have they done this?
I also remember a utility for the IBM world that claimed to copy Mac disks
in a PC drive, though I never tested it myself.

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deven@rpi.edu (Deven T. Corzine) (02/08/90)

On 5 Feb 90 18:55:36 GMT,
crs@cpsc6a.att.com (Chris (The Home of the Killer Smiley) Seaman) said:

Chris> I have long been aware of the variable speed problem regarding
Chris> Mac/Amiga transfers, but I have recently read something that
Chris> has me thoroughly confused.  While 'checking out the
Chris> competition', I read a review of a package for the Atari ST
Chris> that claims to read Mac disks in the Atari internal drive, and
Chris> execute Mac software via emulation.  I don't recall the name of
Chris> the package, but apparently it consists of nothing more than a
Chris> cartridge (there is no Mac drive required).  So, how have they
Chris> done this?  I also remember a utility for the IBM world that
Chris> claimed to copy Mac disks in a PC drive, though I never tested
Chris> it myself.

Apparently this is accomplished by doing funky stuff with the clock
rate for reading/writing (already MFM-encoded) bits to the drive,
which operates at a constant speed.  In other words, the clock rate
for the transfer to the drive and/or controller is varied instead of
the rotational speed of the disk in the drive.

My question is can the Amiga handle a high enough speed to do this
sort of trick without hardware modifications?  Or, can it possibly
read at least by using multiple passes?

Deven
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Jim.Priestle@afitamy.fidonet.org (Jim Priestle) (02/15/90)

Seems to me your easiest solution would be to buy Mac to Dos.  -jim-


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