darrell.grainger@canremote.uucp (DARRELL GRAINGER) (02/13/90)
The test to see if you have 1 megabyte of chip RAM is to open Dpaint with HiRes OverScan AND 16 colours. If you are forced down to 8 colours then you have 512K of chip RAM. An easier way to test for 1 megabyte of chip RAM would be to go to the Shell/CLI and type AVAIL. Darrell --- * Via ProDoor 3.1R
bscott@pikes.Colorado.EDU (Ben M Scott) (02/14/90)
In article <90021302101315@masnet.uucp> darrell.grainger@canremote.uucp (DARRELL GRAINGER) writes: > The test to see if you have 1 megabyte of chip RAM is to open Dpaint >with HiRes OverScan AND 16 colours. If you are forced down to 8 colours >then you have 512K of chip RAM. > > An easier way to test for 1 megabyte of chip RAM would be to go to the >Shell/CLI and type AVAIL. At the risk of presuming, that test won't work for everyone. I'm not positive about this myself, but there are those (locally) who are convinced that thehy have the 1 meg Agnus in the computer, but it's not enabled for 1 meg chip RAM. I know that the new Agnus will, if inserted but if no traces/jumpers are fixed, act just like the old one and report 512K CHIP. They want some kind of test which will show what type of chip they have without opening the computer. I personally doubt Commodore would ship computers with the new Agnus disabled, but then they've done boneheaded things before... anyway, I hear there's some kind of program somewhere that will detect what version of chip(s) you have. . <<<<Infinite K>>>> BTW: I have the new chip and I must say it's nice to be able to run two copies of DPaint III with 150 frame anims each... and still have interlaced WB, etc...
seamus@bucsb.UUCP (Jeff Rizzo) (02/14/90)
In article <3277@pikes.Colorado.EDU> bscott@pikes.Colorado.EDU (Ben M Scott) writes: >I know that the new Agnus will, if inserted but if no traces/jumpers are fixed, >act just like the old one and report 512K CHIP. They want some kind of test >which will show what type of chip they have without opening the computer. I >personally doubt Commodore would ship computers with the new Agnus disabled, >but then they've done boneheaded things before... anyway, I hear there's some >kind of program somewhere that will detect what version of chip(s) you have. > >. <<<<Infinite K>>>> Commodore is *precisely* this boneheaded. Actually, I don't know if it's really boneheadedness, it might have to do with the fact that an A500 ships with on 512K of *any* kind of memeory, so they have to disable Agnus. At any rate,I know that they ship them disabled, because I recently confirmed that I have the 1 Meg Agnus by looking at the serial #, but even with 1 full Meg of memory on my A500, it reports only 512K chip. *SIGH* Looks like I've got some soldering to do... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Rizzo seamus@bucsf.bu.edu Boston University phyq8jc@BUACCA.BITNET CLA '91 Anybody want to give me a job?
watters@owl.cis.ohio-state.edu (david r watters) (02/15/90)
>Commodore is *precisely* this boneheaded. Actually, I don't know if it's >really boneheadedness, it might have to do with the fact that an A500 ships >with only 512K of *any* kind of memeory, so they have to disable Agnus. >At any rate,I know that they ship them disabled, because I recently confirmed >that I have the 1 Meg Agnus by looking at the serial #, but even with 1 full >Meg of memory on my A500, it reports only 512K chip. >*SIGH* Looks like I've got some soldering to do... Ah, poor baby! I suppose you expected to have them ship it enabled with 512K so it would crash as soon as it started up, unless you purchased a A501 when you bought you machine but then you would have said; -------- Severe Whining ------------ But I don't want to buy an A501! -------- Severe Whining off -------- Or maybe you expect them to trash instock 500s and start shipping them with 1meg on board. But then you would say; -------- Severe Whining ------------ But I don't want to pay more for a machine with 1meg that required a complete motherboard revision, I don't need a full 1meg right away! -------- Severe Whining off -------- Maybe they should have done what apple would have done and not install a new Agnus, until a motherboard revison was done, and make you buy the new one on your own, but then you whould have said; -------- Severe Whining ------------ This machine is brand new, why should I have to pay for a new chip, the A2000 people don't have to! -------- Severe Whining off -------- I have been an Amiga dealer, and I have talked to CBM personel from the disctrict sales manager, all the way to the engineers. The are competent people, who just happen to have every answer to your 'Why did the boneheads do this...' comment, they even had an extremely proper answer to MY 'Why havent you released UNIX over here yet?' -- If you must know it is because the front end dealers would not be able to support it one little bit, and this is so damn true, since most Amiga salespeople are 22year old hackers that would have no clue when someone called and said, 'I have some 'c' code that compiles fine on my Sun4, why won't it compile on this thing, or, this Unix application isn't running on this thing, why? ' The moral of the story, I don't care how smart you are, whining at CBM won't do anything but annoy others. If you have a suggestion, make it. If you have an opinion, say it... But make sure it is justified, and please stop whining. DW
khl@ivax.doc.ic.ac.uk.doc.ic.ac.uk (Kang Ho Lee) (02/15/90)
There is a little program that comes with A-max that when run will tell you whether you have the 512K Agnus or the new 1Mb Angus. I think it's called CheckChip.
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (02/17/90)
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phupp@warwick.ac.uk (S Millington) (02/22/90)
In article <3277@pikes.Colorado.EDU> bscott@pikes.Colorado.EDU (Ben M Scott) writes: [deleted] >personally doubt Commodore would ship computers with the new Agnus disabled, >but then they've done boneheaded things before... anyway, I hear there's some Of course they would! In fact they do - mine, a UK model, was supplied as such - I opened it up to find out though. If you're prepared to mess about with links then why be scared of finding out if you've got a 1meg agnus by just taking the lid off? I've never heard of this program but, from what I've heard all A500's with serial numbers over 520,000 should have the new agnus in, although disabled. As I don't know the US serial number range this might not be any use, sorry. Stuart Millington. phupp@poppy.