fc@lexicon.com (Frank Cunningham) (02/13/90)
In article <3057@d75.UUCP> robin@sabre.uucp (Robin D. Wilson/1000000) writes: > In article <90042.150500UH2@PSUVM.BITNET> UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) writes: > >1. PHASAR 3.0 $40 > I don't mean to rain on your parade, but Antic's Amiga magazine > just gave this away on disk for $9.95 U.S. They also offer a deal > to get the manuals for another $15. > It seems as though the makers of PHA$AR 3.0 are getting ready to > ship v. 4.0. Flame On-> this is one of the things that pisses me off about Antic's Amiga+ ragazine. The stuff they put on the disk is often some useless, but possibly cute, hack or else something with a commercial tie-in. The tie-in this time is particularly blatant, since Antic is the publisher of PHASAR. I have let my subscription die. I was planning to sub to Amigo Times instead. Any further rumors about their future, Issue 1.10 ? -- -Frank Cunningham smart: fc@lexicon.com phone: (617) 891-6790 dumb: {husc6,linus,harvard,bbn}!spdcc!lexicon!fc snail: Lexicon Inc. 100 Beaver St. Waltham MA 02174 Why are viola jokes so short ? So violinists can remember them.
hrlaser@crash.cts.com (Harv Laser) (02/14/90)
In article <564@lexicon.com> fc@lexicon.com (Frank Cunningham) writes: >In article <3057@d75.UUCP> robin@sabre.uucp (Robin D. Wilson/1000000) writes: >> In article <90042.150500UH2@PSUVM.BITNET> UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) writes: >> >1. PHASAR 3.0 $40 >> I don't mean to rain on your parade, but Antic's Amiga magazine >> just gave this away on disk for $9.95 U.S. They also offer a deal >> to get the manuals for another $15. >> It seems as though the makers of PHA$AR 3.0 are getting ready to >> ship v. 4.0. > >Flame On-> this is one of the things that pisses me off about Antic's >Amiga+ ragazine. The stuff they put on the disk is often some useless, >but possibly cute, hack or else something with a commercial tie-in. The >tie-in this time is particularly blatant, since Antic is the publisher >of PHASAR. I have let my subscription die. I was planning to sub to >Amigo Times instead. Any further rumors about their future, Issue 1.10 ? >-- Amigo Times:: I was waiting for someone to ask about this magazine. I write for them (freelance) and have been published in every one of their issues since the first one. As you probably are aware, ATimes was supposed to be a monthly publication. However, over the course of two years (since the first issue came out) they've published a total of exactly NINE issues. Hardly what you'd call monthly. Issue 1.9 was the last one shipped and that was a few months ago. Issue 1.10, for which I wrote, but have never been paid, is, to the best of my personal knowledge, still sitting at the printer, where it's BEEN sitting for at LEAST a month, probably longer. The stuff I wrote for 1.10 was submitted to the editors in October '89. My best guess would be that Amigo Times is in the midst of financial difficulties and whether or not they survive and actually publish another issue is a mystery. I do know that it has been a very expensive magazine to produce what with the "color on (almost) every page." Eyo Sama, the owner, publisher, and head guy of Sama Software which puts out Amigo Times knows how to give his magazine a great look... he can write in the Postscript language and can make Professional Page sit up on its hind legs and yodel opera, so it really pisses me off to see the magazine floundering like this and it also pains me to say this (since I write for them) but at THIS point in time it probably wouldn't be a REAL good idea to send in a subscription check until they can prove they can actually deliver a monthly magazine on a timely basis. By all means, if you see #1.10 come out and sitting on a newsstand and you want it, buy it, but whether or not you'd actually get a complete fulfillment on a new subscription is anyone's guess. This leads to another new interesting rumor and that is that a certain unnamed Amiga/64 magazine published in the MidWest is planning to buy out not only AmigoTimes but another well-known Amiga oriented magazine of Canadian extraction and combine the best of both of them with its current magazine, that is, the graphics and layout beauty of ATimes plus the technical content of the "other one" along with the news and wit and "hard hitting" columns already existing in that Iowa-based publication.. or maybe they're not. However, it's NOT a rumor that INFO magazine is going to become a monthly with their June issue and is also dropping CBM 8-bit coverage completely. INFO, although a small organization, has published over 30 issues (bi-monthly) during the last few years and from all I've read and heard, they are quite healthy. Disclaimer: I write for both Amigo Times and INFO, for which I get money (usually) but I'm not an employee of either and don't own any "stock" in either.
bn@attcc.UUCP (02/15/90)
> Flame On-> this is one of the things that pisses me off about Antic's > Amiga+ ragazine. The stuff they put on the disk is often some useless, > but possibly cute, hack or else something with a commercial tie-in. The > tie-in this time is particularly blatant, since Antic is the publisher > of PHASAR. I have let my subscription die. I was planning to sub to > Amigo Times instead. Any further rumors about their future, Issue 1.10 ? You get mad when a magazine gives you a $70 accounting package, and a $50 spelling checker???? I thought these two packages ALONE were worth the $39.95 subscription price. Bo Najdrovsky UUCP: att!mwood!attcc!bn INET: mwood!attcc!bn@ATT.ATT.COM
keithh@atreus.uucp (Keith Hanlan) (02/17/90)
In article <1499@crash.cts.com> hrlaser@crash.cts.com (Harv Laser) writes: >In article <564@lexicon.com> fc@lexicon.com (Frank Cunningham) writes: >>In article <3057@d75.UUCP> robin@sabre.uucp (Robin D. Wilson/1000000) writes: Variously about AmigoTimes... I've been interested in what is happening to AmigoTimes for a while now. Harv's news piqued my curiosity again so I phoned AmigoTimes and spoke to Lisa. Turns out that Harv's rumours are fact and that INFO and AmigoTimes are consolidating. AmigoTimes V1i10 is going to be published with the next INFO magazine since AT 1i10 is complete and ready to roll. It will be an interesting hybrid issue. After that they will be published more uniformly in a single format. Expect to see the hybrid issue beginning of March. It'll be a collector's item. :-) The bottom line was financial - they grew too fast. They went from 5,000 to 50,000 issues in less than a year. Another interesting note is that apparently they will have some of the Amiga Transactor's writers writing for them. This doesn't bode well for Transactor... Lisa sounded very encouraging. I wish them well. Keith Hanlan Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada 613-765-4645 uunet!bnrgate!atreus!keithh or (via bitnet) keithh@bnr.ca "You're making me feel wierd Adrian" Jack Carney to Adrian LeDuc, Apartment Zero
fc@lexicon.com (Frank Cunningham) (02/20/90)
In article <19000034@attcc.UUCP> bn@attcc.UUCP writes: > You get mad when a magazine gives you a $70 accounting package, and a $50 > spelling checker???? I thought these two packages ALONE were worth the $39.95 > subscription price. I already own the accounting package, the version they're 'giving away' is obsolete, they're charging $20 for the manual, if they have one to sell you, and I know how to spell, thank you. I dislike Antic charging me for something I've already bought from them. It's the both the conflict of interest and the fact that I'm paying twice for the program that irritate me. Since I used to subscribe, I didn't have the option to decline the losing disk. I still view the 'giveaway' as a convenient way for Antic to advertise their upgrade at my expense, by avoiding having to find something new or unique for the disk. (rant rant) -frank -- -Frank Cunningham smart: fc@lexicon.com phone: (617) 891-6790 dumb: {husc6,linus,harvard,bbn}!spdcc!lexicon!fc snail: Lexicon Inc. 100 Beaver St. Waltham MA 02174 Why are viola jokes so short ? So violinists can remember them.
robin@sabre.uucp (Robin D. Wilson/1000000) (02/21/90)
In article <570@lexicon.com> fc@lexicon.com (Frank Cunningham) writes: >In article <19000034@attcc.UUCP> bn@attcc.UUCP writes: >> You get mad when a magazine gives you a $70 accounting package, and a $50 >> spelling checker???? I thought these two packages ALONE were worth the $39.95 >> subscription price. >I already own the accounting package, the version they're 'giving >away' is obsolete, they're charging $20 for the manual, if they have >one to sell you, and I know how to spell, thank you. I dislike Antic >charging me for something I've already bought from them. It's the both >the conflict of interest and the fact that I'm paying twice for the >program that irritate me. Since I used to subscribe, I didn't have the >option to decline the losing disk. I still view the 'giveaway' as a >convenient way for Antic to advertise their upgrade at my expense, by >avoiding having to find something new or unique for the disk. (rant >rant) So if I buy a Disk mag that has software on that I could have already bought elsewhere, the mag is a rag and they cheated me? I think not. It sounds to me like your mad that they sold the software you bought at full (or regular discounted price) for a fraction of what you payed for it. For the rest of us it was a good deal. Some people get really mad when they buy an album and one of the songs stinks, but that's not the record comany's fault; is it? If antic wants to advertise their new software by giving away teh old, that's really their perogative -- after all they do own the magazine. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |The views expressed herein, are the sole responsibility of the typist at hand| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |USNail: UUCP: | |2323 Wells Branch Pkwy., #G107 cs.utexas.edu!romp!ibmchs!auschs\ | |Austin, TX 78728 !sabre.austin.ibm.com!robin | |Home: (512)251-6889 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<-MUST BE INCLUDED| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
bn@attcc.UUCP (02/23/90)
* Written 9:29 am Feb 20, 1990 by fc@lexicon.com in attcc.UUCP:comp.s.amiga * > I already own the accounting package, the version they're 'giving > away' is obsolete, they're charging $20 for the manual, if they have > one to sell you, and I know how to spell, thank you. I dislike Antic > charging me for something I've already bought from them. It's the both Please don't get hostile. I know how to spell also... but everybody who types makes typos. Also, you are looking at things from a very singular point of of view. Not everybody has this software package, and not everybody shelled out the $60 for it (PHA$AR). I get the impression that you are just pissed, that you payed the bucks for the software package, and now they are giving it away. While I can see the point in that, you are forgeting that you are a registered (I hope) user, and you get the upgrades. Those who got the software package in the magazine will just have to purchase the new package for the entire price. Let's not flame a company for trying to attract more business. I think that what they are doing makes a perfect business sense. BTW, I have NO (repeat NO) connection with Antic Software/Publishing. I just think that you are gettin upset for no good reason. Bo Najdrovsky UUCP: att!mwood!attcc!bn INET: mwood!attcc!bn@ATT.ATT.COM