sean@garfield.UUCP (Sean Byrne) (03/25/84)
In an attempt to, as the title suggests, liven this group up and
to prevent it turning into something that looks like net.movies,
I am starting a number of discussions about the various sorts of
music that we all have come to know/love/despise.
I'm trying to enlighten people to what the various types of music
really are (not just stereotypical views of them). The purpose of
this is for all of us the understand what other people listen to
and why.
The first discussion (NB: each one should run for about a week before
another is suggested so we have some continuity here) that I am
starting is about punk. I'm sure we'll all have fun with this one.
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This is punk as I see it:
Punk started back in the mid-70's when young people, particularly
British were looking for something new, something radical, but not
quit the radical-pacifistic types of the 60's.
A few of the original groups were "The Sex Pistols", "The Damned",
"The 101'ers" and later, "The Clash". The Pistols were very
anti-monarchy and anti-goverment as they show on their first
album "Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols", by such
songs as "Anarchy for the U.K.", "God Save the Queen", and "Submission".
They, like the Beatles, weren't especially talented, just the first.
The Damned were touring around at the same time, and they were
singing the ideals of punk along with the all the others in this
sudden surge of punk at this time. Their first album is simply
known as "The Black Album".
Of course British music has always influenced American
music and there became what is known as "American Punk" and
"British Punk". One of the first american groups was out of
San Francisco, the Dead Kennedeys. Their first (I think) album
was "In God We Trust, Inc." and they are very anti-everything,
especially the american goverment. Some songs from this album
are "Religious Vomit", "California Uber Alles", and "Nazi Punks
Fuck Off".
As we all love to put labels on everything, there were
now four types of punk, American and Bristish soft-core and
hard-core. Examples of modern day AH (Amer Hard) are such groups
as MDC, the DK's. On the compilation, "This is Boston, Not L.A."
there is a song called "Radio UNIX". It, however, has nothing
directly to do with our beloved operationg system.
I'll just close by saying that I don't want to see flames
if I, or anyone else, spells a name wrong, or gets a date wrong
or some technical error. I don't mind as long as it's relevant
to the discussion, but otherwise it would only detract from the
purpose of these discussions.
My own tastes include:
The Damned, Stiff Little Fingers, The Clash,
The Alarm, U2, The Business, most DK's, to name a few...
Good Luck and I hope this turns out for the better....
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/ . . . \dce@hammer.UUCP (David Elliott) (03/28/84)
The first album by the Damned was not the "Black Album", it was "The Damned". Other albums (I think this is the right order) : Music Music Music, Machine Gun Ettiquette, Live at Shepperton, The Black Album, and Strawberries. (The Black Album was released in 1982. First pressing imports also contained an EP with the classic "Curtain Call" and some songs from the live album.) Also, there are some 12" EPs and a greatest hits collection. The early stuff is very raw and hard to listen to. Later albums are much calmer, but still good. Captain Sensible (ex bass and lead guitar for the Damned) has two albums, one released only a couple of months ago. David
myers@uwvax.ARPA (03/30/84)
Other additions to punk group list: Buzzcocks, 999, and Richard Hell and the Voidoids (a worthless band aside from the classic "Blank Generation"). Cheers.
andrew@inmet.UUCP (04/06/84)
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inmet!andrew Apr 5 12:30:00 1984
Punk's roots are American, not British. No, I'm not talking about the
earlier 'garage band' style also known as punk-rock (I'd love to talk
about it, though)... I mean the Stooges, MC5, and Velvet Underground.
They were THE proto-punks and served as inspiration to both latter-day
American punkers (New York Dolls, Dictators, RAMONES!!!) as well as the
generation of British punks. Sid Vicious often expressed a desire to meet
Lou Reed; I believe Sid played several Velvets covers at his last live
performance.
Andrew W. Rogers, Intermetrics ...{harpo|ihnp4|ima|esquire}!inmet!andrew