bunch@alan.decnet.lockheed.com (03/08/90)
From: "Robert I. Eachus" <eachus@aries.mitre.org> Subject: Re: Bad programming practices: View from the other side... Date: 23 Feb 90 19:36:37 GMT To: amiga-relay@udel.edu In article <10942@saturn.ADS.COM> xanthian@saturn.ADS.COM (Metafont Consultant Account) writes: > No, they shouldn't. One of the things that has contributed most to > the spread of software technology worldwide is standardization on > English as the language of programmers. To what good fortune we can Initially, to British colonialization, then to American economic and military strength. If computer science had taken off in the '30s, instead of the '60s, we might have languages written using German keywords. > attributed this I know not, and which language it was didn't matter > that much, but don't even suggest messing it up..... The advantage of having computer languages written in English is that we (English speakers) don't have to know Russian to read code. The advantage to non English speakers is that they have only one language to learn, instead of English AND German AND Russian AND French AND... Acutally the choice of languge did matter. In many areas of computer science, such as compiler and language design, it seems to be necessary to be fluent in English, Russian, or one of the Germanic languages. Ada is not a counterexample. All of the members of the French led design team were and are fluent in English, and although some would contend that some of the design team discussions were held in English as opposed to American, very little, if any, work was done in French. Even today in Alsys S.A. headquaters in Paris, it is rare to hear technical discussion in French, and the company is partly owned by the French government. (all of this should be wrapped with forms binding OPINION-P to T and HOMEWORK-DONE-P to NIL, so here goes with some armchair linguistics :-) I suggest that the explanation for the afinity between compiler design and Germanic languages, English in particular, and to a lesser extent, many other descendents of the Proto-Indo-European language, can be found in the history of compiler theory itself. Back in the '60s, Noam Chomsky's Theory of Transformational Grammar was all the rage. It still is, to a great extent among syntacticians, although many competing theories of grammar have come and gone since then. Nevertheless, while TG was the hot item among linguists, computer science was really taking off at MIT (where Chomsky was leading the revolution in syntactic theory). And a monument to academic cross-pollination was built. The computer scientists took the linguists' theories of grammar and used them to build the science of comiler design. The link between compiler design and English comes through TG. Although some TG disciples would like to think their theories are more universal, they primarily describe English, and then Germanic and Latin languages to a reasonable extent (not surprising, since English is a merge between these two branches of Proto-Indo-European, to a great extent), and of course all "syntax-based" languages, in a more abstract sense. Of course, anyone will tell you that whatever language the Algol 68 Revised Report is written in, it isn't English. But that just illustrates why a mutable languge is necessary for programmers--you often have to add new terms to describe new concepts. I suggest that the practice of language modification, and extension in particular, is a characteristic of the American culture, rather than the "English" language. I think you'll find that the British are much less prone to this practice. And I would tie that to their culture, placing more value on tradition than pragmatism. Even more interesting is that, although people who learned Chinese as a native tounge seem to have a special aptitude for compiler work, it is almost impossible for them to master langauge grammers unless they have mastered English. Sino-Tibetan languages are grammatically so far removed from Indo-European languages, it isn't surprising that Chinese speakers can have difficulty learning symbol systems (in this case, comilers) based on English (and to a lesser extent, other Germanic and Latin language) grammars. [...] In my experience Japanese, Arabic, and Korean are all poison in the compiler world. If you know them, try to forget them. In a very [...] This is ironic coming from a user of Ada, a language portrayed as being object-oriented, because, it seems, "discourse-based" languages, e.g. Korean, are naturally more object oriented than "syntax-based" languages, e.g. English. Discourse-based languages derive more semantic content from the concepts than from the syntactic glue, whereas syntax-based languages encode much semantic information into the syntactic structure surrounding the concepts. It's similar to distributing your data throughout your code, instead of isolating the objects from the functions. Since object-oriented programming is the software wave-of-the-future, perhaps CS curricula should start including Korean. walt bunch lockheed advanced research bunch@alan.decnet.lockheed.com