gordon@scgvaxd.UUCP (07/01/83)
ommunity belonging can these networms achieve a parity in
status, so much deserved in the VAX world.
Please help.
Support a net.VMS newsgroup. (I also suggest a net.VMS.silly
group for all those who would like to spend their time arguing merits
of VMS vs. UNIX)
By the way, I am a VMS user and proud of it. I LIKE VMS, and I
LIKE USENET (and, for the record, many other UNIX utilities). I
selfishly want the best of both worlds.
VMS users (and others), let me know what you think of this.
decvax!trw-unix!scgvaxd!engvax!gordon
Gordon Howell
Hughes Aircraft
Space and Communications Group
El Segundo, California
(213) 615-9075tbray@mprvaxa.UUCP (07/11/83)
Microtel Pacific Research hereby seconds the proposal for a net.vms
news group.
We have dual Vaxen, both 780's, one apiece VMS and 4.1x bsd. We feel
that this situation cannot be that uncommon and that there is a large
potential for valuble VMS interchange on this network.
We LIKE both VMS and UNIX, and feel that each does a satisfactory
job of addressing a certain set of requirements.
Two topics that it might prove very worthwhile to discuss are:
1. UNIX emulation on VMS. We are running the HCR UNITY package ( will post
a review in a bit ).
2. Cross-fertilization. The following are just some of the ideas
we are working on, and we hope to have deliverables in a matter
of months:
- porting UUCP to native-mode vms (Using the DEC C compiler)
- porting vi to native-mode vms ( '' )
- building a VMS-style lock manager for UNIX
- building disks from which either VMS or UNIX can be booted.
As for the 'vms.silly' idea... What's wrong with arguing the relative
merits of VMS and UNIX? We spend hours doing it and enjoy it
hugely.
Tim Bray, Microtel Pacific Research
( ...unisoft!ubc-visi!mprvaxa!tbray )