sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (03/07/90)
A friend told me that Amiga World has claimed that CBM has decided to call the new release of Workbench: WB 2.0 instead of WB 1.4 Now, I don't read that rag so I am only repeating this second hand. But it sounds fishy to me. Since magazines are usually 3 months behind the times when they come out on the stands, I am sure we would have heard about this before now. I just wanted you (and CBM) to know what is being said behind the scenes. -- John Sparks | D.I.S.K. 24hrs 1200bps. Accessable via Starlink (Louisville KY) sparks@corpane.UUCP <><><><><><><><><><><> D.I.S.K. ph:502/968-5401 thru -5406 Build something that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it.
UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) (03/09/90)
f In article <1565@corpane.UUCP>, sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) says: > >A friend told me that Amiga World has claimed that CBM has decided to call >the new release of Workbench: WB 2.0 instead of WB 1.4 > I think they should call it WB 90 or some such. In these days of version number inflation, eg, Dbase IV, Unix SV, Windows 386, and so on, the Amiga is in danger of falling too far behind if it calls it 1.4. lee
sk2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sun Kun Kim) (03/09/90)
Well, the workbench re-naming could be found in the new issue of AmigaWorld.
(April 90 issue - I subscribe :-) [no flames about this PLEASE! I like the
'rag']) Anyway, it was featured in their now-a-regular-column, Ear to the
Wall. It states that WB 2.0(formerly 1.4) is set for early THIS year.
(which is/was the date the NET people have projected - so nothing NEW there)
It also says that Commodore will be offering an 'aggressive' trade in offer
for the A1000 owners because WB 2.0 will not be supporting that machine.
Although this is from a rumor-mill, I think it contains some truth value to
it. I was reading a Commodore ad in the same magazine about the A1000 trade
in offer(YES, CBM put out a full page ad for this) titled 'THE COMPUTER DEAL
OF THE DECADE'. In the context, one of the sentences read 'Commodore will
be introducing many new exciting technologies for the Amiga 2000 series in
the 1990's, and we want you to be able to take advantage of them all.'
It gives us something to think about. TO those die-hard A1000 owners, WB1.4
might not support your machine.(which is the topic we already discussed here
on the NET) If I might add one more thing about the AD, Commodore makes it
clear that the offer is only good til MARCH 31st, 1990 and this magazine is
slated for April. It might hit the shelves a little earlier or later(give or
take a few days), but this might be a little too late for A1000 owners who
might take advantage of this deal. Maybe Commodore ran some ads before, but
I haven't seen any until now. We, the NET users have known about this
for quite awhile now, but there are others out there. Hmmm, I wonder if
Commodore would extend this offer.(and the ED. Discount <grin(?)> )
Sun....new@udel.edu (Darren New) (03/09/90)
In article <90067.143001UH2@psuvm.psu.edu> UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) writes: >In article <1565@corpane.UUCP>, sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) says: >>A friend told me that Amiga World has claimed that CBM has decided to call >>the new release of Workbench: WB 2.0 instead of WB 1.4 >I think they should call it WB 90 or some such. [ . . . ] the Amiga >is in danger of falling too far behind if it calls it 1.4. Actually, I think the best solution would be to call it WB 1.5. Then we could have an Amiga novice ask every week "What ever happened to WB 1.4?" and then we could have a guru post once every two weeks "Maybe the fact that there is no WB 1.4 should go into the monthly intro posting." so that it can be taken out again and archived forever once WB 1.6 is actually released. :-) :-) :-) -- Darren
nfs1675@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil ( Michael S Figg) (03/09/90)
From article <1565@corpane.UUCP>, by sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks): > A friend told me that Amiga World has claimed that CBM has decided to call > the new release of Workbench: WB 2.0 instead of WB 1.4 > > Now, I don't read that rag so I am only repeating this second hand. > But it sounds fishy to me. Since magazines are usually 3 months behind the This was on the "Last Licks" column of the current (April 1990) edition. Although there is other information on the page that doesn't sound hard to beleive, they do say in the table of contents about 'Last Licks' that you should "Skip this page if you're looking for useful, informative, factual, reputable, practical, or reliable information". Even more so than other comments in Amiga World, you should take this column with a grain of salt. -- "Could we be the bellwether | Michael Figg DSAC-FSD of major societal shifts?" | DLA Systems Automation Center - Columbus,Oh mfigg@dsacg2.dsac.dla.mil CIS: 73777,360
valentin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Valentin Pepelea) (03/10/90)
In article <90067.143001UH2@psuvm.psu.edu> UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) writes: >In article <1565@corpane.UUCP>, sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) says: >> >>A friend told me that Amiga World has claimed that CBM has decided to call >>the new release of Workbench: WB 2.0 instead of WB 1.4 > >I think they should call it WB 90 or some such. In these days of version >number inflation, eg, Dbase IV, Unix SV, Windows 386, and so on, the Amiga >is in danger of falling too far behind if it calls it 1.4. I think we should call it System 7.0 instead, that way we compete with Apple's new OS release. And Workbench should be renamed "Intuition Presentation Manager", that way we compete with IBM's presentation manager. Valentin :-) :-) -- The Goddess of democracy? "The tyrants Name: Valentin Pepelea may distroy a statue, but they cannot Phone: (215) 431-9327 kill a god." UseNet: cbmvax!valentin@uunet.uu.net - Ancient Chinese Proverb Claimer: I not Commodore spokesman be
FelineGrace@cup.portal.com (Dana B Bourgeois) (03/10/90)
I also read this in Amiga World and was amazed! All last year we heard several times that 2.0 would break just about everything and 1.4 (and 1.5 and 1.6!) where definitely *NOT* going to be 2.0!!! So I think an authoritative voice should comment on this question. Is the next release of AmigaDOS going to be 1.4 or is it going to be 2.0??!? And is it coming out on 512K ROMS or 256K ROMs? Dana Bourgeois @ cup.portal.com
schur@venera.isi.edu (Sean Schur) (03/11/90)
In article <gZxfcSm00WB24W9K9R@andrew.cmu.edu> sk2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sun Kun Kim) writes: >It gives us something to think about. TO those die-hard A1000 owners, WB1.4 >might not support your machine.(which is the topic we already discussed here WILL NOT support the 1000. A friend is a certified technical support developer for the Amiga and has received the complete information from Commodore on the situation. They are ready to ship, what they are still calling in this documentation, 1.4 to developers NOW. >clear that the offer is only good til MARCH 31st, 1990 and this magazine is >slated for April. It might hit the shelves a little earlier or later(give or >take a few days), but this might be a little too late for A1000 owners who >might take advantage of this deal. Maybe Commodore ran some ads before, but There was a full page ad in the March issue of Amiga World also.
wendell@medsys.uucp (Wendell Dingus) (03/12/90)
Concerning the April '90 issue of Amiga WHirled, did anybody ele catch the fine print at the bottom of the NewTek ad on the back cover? Quoted without permission of course: "...If you want a Toaster then get your bread ready..." Hmmmmmm, Are the wisps of vapor starting to materialize? ----- Wendell Dingus ...!uunet!medsys!wendell
aaalexis@sactoh0.UUCP (Andrew A. Alexis) (03/12/90)
In article <27754@cup.portal.com>, FelineGrace@cup.portal.com (Dana B Bourgeois) writes: > I also read this in Amiga World and was amazed! All last year we > heard several times that 2.0 would break just about everything and > 1.4 (and 1.5 and 1.6!) where definitely *NOT* going to be 2.0!!! [unnecessary excess unneeded verbiage expunged] Maybe 1.7(1.4+2.0/2) WILL break everything... and this is why it is going to be 2.0. It sounds as if it will break more things than 1.2 did, at least. It will probably break the 1000s too I guess. -- Andy Alexis UUCP:ames!pacbell!sactoh0!aaalexis ======================================================= "Toto kansasoseum non est cognito" -- Farley =======================================================
kms@uncecs.edu (Ken Steele) (03/13/90)
In article <10091@cbmvax.commodore.com>, valentin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Valentin Pepelea) writes: > In article <90067.143001UH2@psuvm.psu.edu> UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) > writes: > >In article <1565@corpane.UUCP>, sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) says: > >> > >>A friend told me that Amiga World has claimed that CBM has decided to call > >>the new release of Workbench: WB 2.0 instead of WB 1.4 > > > >I think they should call it WB 90 or some such. In these days of version > >number inflation, eg, Dbase IV, Unix SV, Windows 386, and so on, the Amiga > >is in danger of falling too far behind if it calls it 1.4. > > I think we should call it System 7.0 instead, that way we compete with Apple's > new OS release. And Workbench should be renamed "Intuition Presentation > Manager", that way we compete with IBM's presentation manager. > No, it should be called Workbench System 7.2. That way when System 7.0 is released, Amiga owners can say "Oh, we're already up to 7.2." And everybody knows that the major bugs aren't dealt with until the second big revision. :-) Ken -- Ken Steele Dept. of Psychology kms@ecsvax.bitnet Mars Hill College kms@ecsvax.uncecs.edu Mars Hill, NC 28754 {some big name site}!mcnc!ecsvax!kms
mike@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Mike Smithwick) (03/15/90)
In article <27754@cup.portal.com> FelineGrace@cup.portal.com (Dana B Bourgeois) writes:
<I also read this in Amiga World and was amazed! All last year we
<heard several times that 2.0 would break just about everything and
<1.4 (and 1.5 and 1.6!) where definitely *NOT* going to be 2.0!!!
<
<So I think an authoritative voice should comment on this question.
<Is the next release of AmigaDOS going to be 1.4 or is it going to
<be 2.0??!? And is it coming out on 512K ROMS or 256K ROMs?
<
<Dana Bourgeois @ cup.portal.com
Well, since no authoritative voice has spoken, I guess I'll chime in.
I just received an inch thick document from C= with "1.4" stamped all
over the cover. This was handed out last Friday, so it's somewhat more
current then AmigaWeird.
Sorry boys, but don't ask me anything more cuz I can`t tell ya. . .
;-).
BTW, it aint gonna work on 1000s either. 1.4 alpha did, but the Beta
release won't and doesn't work on mine.
mike
*** mike smithwick ***
"E Pluribus Unix!"
[disclaimer : nope, I don't work for NASA, I take full blame for my ideas]dcr3567@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.C. Richardson) (03/15/90)
In article <1990Mar11.165527.2867@medsys.uucp> wendell@medsys.uucp (Wendell Dingus) writes: >"...If you want a Toaster then get your bread ready..." >Hmmmmmm, Are the wisps of vapor starting to materialize? Hmm... I took that as saying that "If you want a toaster, the only one you'll get is one that makes toast!" Although some of the most impressive Amiga graphics I've seen were from the AmigaWhirled Video.. done by Allen Hastings & NewTek.... Could Be.. -- Daniel C. Richardson Rochester Institute Of Technology / Mechanical Engineering Dept. "Everyone Needs A Few Useless Toys Now And Then.. I Just Happen To Have More Than Average!" - Technology Crazed Student
jmeissen@oregon.oacis.org (John Meissen) (03/16/90)
I considered Commodore's offer to upgrade my aging A1000, but the truth is, it isn't worth it. You can buy a new A2000 for $1400, which makes Commodore's offer worth <$400, and it would cost me more than that to move my peripherals. At the current market prices, if I decide the WB1.4/2.0 features are important enough to spend $1000+, I'll just go out and buy an A2000 and I'll still have the A1000 to play with. .
pochron@cat6.cs.wisc.edu (David Pochron) (03/20/90)
In article <2440@ultb.isc.rit.edu> dcr3567@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.C. Richardson ) writes: > >Although some of the most impressive Amiga graphics I've seen were from >the AmigaWhirled Video.. done by Allen Hastings & NewTek.... > >Could Be.. Actually, the Allen Hastings demo reel which is on the AW video does not use the Video Toaster graphics at all...it just uses Newtek's Dyna-HAM mode or whatever it is called in rendering the frames. Allen stated the reel was done using only the Amiga's graphics at the AmiExpo in Chicago last year, though he added that it would be able to render to VToaster when it is released. Speaking of Allen Hasting's new 3D animation program...where is it and what's it called? >-- >Daniel C. Richardson >Rochester Institute Of Technology / Mechanical Engineering Dept. >"Everyone Needs A Few Useless Toys Now And Then.. I Just Happen To Have >More Than Average!" - Technology Crazed Student -- -- David M. Pochron | "Life's a blit, | and then you VBI." pochron@garfield.cs.wisc.edu |
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (03/20/90)
In-Reply-To: message from jmeissen@oregon.oacis.org Maybe you can buy an Amiga 2000 for $1400 mail-order, but I doubt you can get one from an AUTHORIZED dealer. Interesting note: alot of the MO Amigas are coming from Europe, they're switching the graphics chip for one with NTSC, and the power supplies...Any of you MO buyers out there, check and see if you have German text on the back of your machine...hehe Sean
akcs.clemon@wcbcs (Craig Lemon) (03/21/90)
>It also says that Commodore will be offering an 'aggressive' trade in offer >for the A1000 owners because WB 2.0 will not be supporting that machine. >OF THE DECADE'. In the context, one of the sentences read 'Commodore will >be introducing many new exciting technologies for the Amiga 2000 series in >the 1990's, and we want you to be able to take advantage of them all.' Has anyone heard if WB1.4/2.0 will cause any problems with an old veteran A2000 motherboard (ie REV 4.2)? -- _ Craig Lemon // |_| Kitchener, Ontario \X/ | | M I G A Amiga 2000 -- 2400 bps -- AmigaUUCP 1.03D ..!watmath!xenitec!wcbcs!lemsys!clemon ..!watmath!xenitec!wcbcs!{AKCS.clemon,_clemon} ^^ Not Reliable Yet