davidm@sugar.hackercorp.com (David Martin) (03/21/90)
March 20, 1990 An open letter to Commodore: CBM you have done a wonderful thing by offering students and educators a way to purchase Amiga equipment at a great savings. However your program does not fairly treat educators or students that have already purchased Amiga's at full retail. Currently the program will only allow you to buy components at a discount until March 31st. Frankly this policy is INSANE since what you are basically forcing us to do is to come up with the money we need for components before a very near deadline (the educational prg has only been recently announced). Expecting us to buy another computer is unfair. I already have an A2000 and was hoping that since I bought my A2000 at list perhaps I could at least get some of the components I need at a good discount. Unfortunately the pieces I need I cannot buy. I cannot possibly save the money before 3/31/90. People like me have tutition to pay, etc. I was hoping to buy an AT bridgecard that would enable me to do ADA homework at home this summer and for use in my last 1.5 yrs in college. I even wanted to add a A2630 card, but alas I cannot save money for that before 3/31/90. I suppose I will have to pay full retail again...thus negating my ability to use your discount and I'm a student...what a shame. Why not go back to the old days and ignore us again?!?! Please extend the deadline or remove it completely! Not everyone is going to want to buy a system!! Some already have one! If you work for CBM please pass this around the office. Spread the word and others in the same boat as I please write and call CBM! David -- David Martin INFO magazine "Tech Corner" PLINK ID: DAVIDM The 1581 DOS Reference Guide have you bought one yet? Sigh...I need a fancy signature! :)
jac@muslix.llnl.gov (James Crotinger) (03/22/90)
I have to concur with this letter. I've been trying like crazy to figure a creative way to get enough money to buy a plain A2000HD before 3/31 (I've had an A1000 since early '86). This deadline does seem a bit unreasonable. Jim
aok@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (B Jacobs) (03/22/90)
>before 3/31
Is 3/31 the last day for CBM discounts? I thought that they lasted
until the end of june.
URGENT! Reply as soon as possible!
Thanks
Brian Jacobs
aok@mentor.cc.purdue.edusutherla@qtp.ufl.edu (scott sutherland) (03/22/90)
In article <53219@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> jac@muslix.llnl.gov.UUCP (James Crotinger) writes: > > I have to concur with this letter. I've been trying like crazy to >figure a creative way to get enough money to buy a plain A2000HD >before 3/31 (I've had an A1000 since early '86). This deadline does >seem a bit unreasonable. > > Jim I feel that I must also voice my agreement with the letter. I am attempting to creatively finance the purchase of and A2500/30. I DO have the funds, but I do NOT think that I will be able to get them all together before 3/31 (Thanks to the IRS for not getting my refund back to me promptly!!!!). I have to sell my old A2000, AT&T PC6300 (sold, but UPS F**KED up and I am waiting for them to settle damages, which could take weeks!!), and wait for my IRS check. So, even though I will have the $$ sometime before June, I cannot afford to get the A2500/30/PC (an additional $900!) but the PURE A2500/30 IS ***NOT*** CONSIDERED A BUNDLE!! Why did Commodore treat this FANTASTIC machine as a ***COMPONENT***??? If it were a bundle, I would have until June and there would be NO problem. Come on Commodore!! The educational discount was a brilliant idea (do it again next Fall/ Spring :*)) and the "component" deal was even better. PLEASE, PLEASE extend the component deal until June!!!! Another DEVOTED AMIGA USER (had my A2000 for 2.5 years!) Scott Sutherland sutherla@qtp.ufl.edu P.S. I usually do NOT send my postings to the entire world (costs the net too much), but in this instance, I was motivated enough to do so. And I AM NOT ALONE.
chrisl@caen.engin.umich.edu (Chris Lang) (03/22/90)
In article <53219@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> jac@muslix.llnl.gov.UUCP (James Crotinger) writes: > I have to concur with this letter. I've been trying like crazy to >figure a creative way to get enough money to buy a plain A2000HD >before 3/31 (I've had an A1000 since early '86). This deadline does >seem a bit unreasonable. I'm not sure I understand. The A2000HD is a CPU, and you can buy a CPU at a discount at any time during the program's lifetime, can't you? The March 31 deadline is only for people who want to buy components *without* buying a CPU as well. After March 31, if you want to buy components, you need to buy them along with a CPU. You can buy a CPU without buying any components, however. At least, this is the way I and everyone I have talked to has interpreted the program...am I mistaken? > Jim -Chris -- Chris Lang, University of Michigan, College of Engineering +1 313 763 1832 4622 Bursley, Ann Arbor, MI, 48109 chrisl@caen.engin.umich.edu WORK: National Center for Manufacturing Sciences, 900 Victors Way, Suite 226, Ann Arbor, MI, 48108 +1 313 995 0300 "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
LEMASTERS@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Tim LeMasters) (03/22/90)
> I'm not sure I understand. The A2000HD is a CPU, and you can buy a CPU at > a discount at any time during the program's lifetime, can't you? > -Chris By this reasoning, the '30 card should be available with discount until June. Is this correct? I'm planning on picking up one of these and am planning on using funds from a summer job to finance it. (I doubt if I'll have earned the required amount by then, but I should be able to get a loan now that I'll definitely be gainfully employed.) An extension of the student discount on this product would be greatly appreciated by yours truly. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Tim LeMasters | Man can embody truth but he cannot know it. | | kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu | --W.B. Yeats | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
gcrown@csuchico.edu (Glenn R. Crownover) (03/22/90)
Gee, I didn't know about this deadline. I guess since the funding I now have that was going to go towards a new monitor will have to go to something else. Either that or I could concider the evil alternative...Montgomery Grant - - AHHHHHHHHHHHH! Come on Commodore, you had a good idea (not original, but good) now don't blow it! !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*() @ ! # Glenn R. Crownover | "Let's not talk about bombs @ $ California State | or the brain implulses of # % University, Chico | severed limbs" $ ^ % &*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (03/22/90)
I have seen enough confusion about this that I think I need to make a posting to clear things up. The educational pricing sheet contains: A) Bundles B) Computer prices (when bought without bundle) C) Peripheral prices Currently, you may buy the peripherals WITHOUT buying any computers. After March 31, you have to buy a computer to qualify for the pricings. Note that you can buy a computer without buying a bundle and then add peripherals. That is not restricted. The only thing which ends March 31 is the ability to buy peripherals without buying a computer. -- Ethan Ethan Solomita: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu "If Commodore had to market sushi they'd call it `raw cold fish'" -- The Bandito, inevitably stolen from someone else
LDSHANER@MTUS5.BITNET (Leon D. Shaner) (03/22/90)
I, too am hoping to buy an A2630 card for my A2000, but there just isn't a way for me to come up with that kind of cash as a student. I might be able to get that kind of money by the end of summer, but alas, the program ends next week!
GWO110%URIACC.BITNET@brownvm.brown.edu (F. Michael Theilig) (03/27/90)
I cannot believe what I'm hearing! Commodore doesn't do enough
advertising, we all agree? Advertising is hard when you charge just
above cost for your product, and then they turn around and offer incredible
trad-ins for older machines and extremely low prices for college students!
What is the resonce on the net? You guys want to trad-in your 1000s for
2000s at student discount prices! And now you're mad because Commodore's
excelent student discount doesn't fit your exact needs!
I'm at a loss. I believe the intent of the student discount was to
get more machines on campuses. Know what? It's doing just that! I
suppose it's in the Amiga mentality to want it all, but let's not get
greedy. We alreay have it much better than everyone else.
/* "Come see the violence inherent in the system!"
F. Michael Theilig - The University of Rhode Island at Little Rest
GWO110 at URIACC.Bitnet
"Help! Help! I'm being Repressed!" */urjlew@uncecs.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj) (03/27/90)
To add fuel to this particular fire. Suppose that I buy a modest system e.g. A2000HD on the educational discount plan, and then two/three months later want to expand when I have again scraped together some money. WHOOPS the component discount period is no more I either go mail order (if such is still possible for C= products) or I go third party, or I defer expansion till the next big step OR I completely defer buying into the A2000HD for now and/or perhaps wind up buying something else in six months. So I really fail to see C=s reasoning behind cutting off the component discounts to students/faculty/staff. That is I can not see how this plan works to maximize C= profits, or build user loyalty. [Ps the situation I described above does not actually apply to me and should have been written in the third person hypothetical (a student)... ]