oleg@pnet01.cts.com (Oleg Rovner) (03/28/90)
Wow. As I sit here and read pearls of wisdom from J. Abbey, M. Barret et al, I keep reminding to remember their messages so that I could tell those poor fools in my hometown who use Amigas to make a living that they should just go ahead, take sledgehammers and smash their CPU boxes into oblivion. Hey folks, you are using An Obsolete Machine. Can YOU spell O-B-S-O-L-E-T-E boys and girls? Good, I knew you could. Now to tell all of those silly little fools making genlocks, frame grabbers and doing software packages like Broadcast Titler and ProVideo gold as well as DigiPaint3 that they are all wasting their time on an antiquated machine, unusable for professional applications. Well Mr Abbey and Mr Barret, to steal a phrase from Mark Twain, "rumours of Amiga's death have been greatly exxagerated" Take a look at February's BYTE, guess which computer gets a very nice mention in the discussion of multimedia? The Amiga was built as an ultimate PC graphics platform. I don't think that $15,000.00 or so that the latest Macs cost qualifies them as PCs. Hell, If we're talking about that kind of dough, I'd get a Sun. With the release of Amiga Unix (incidentally the latest version, not the antique in A/UX on the Macs), there will be Amigas to compete of the workstation level, but more importantly, there will still be FULLY expandable, consumer priced platforms (the base 2000). It sure doesn't look like anything under a Mac II (including the SE/30) will have a chance when System 7.0 gets here. Too bad for the useful idiots who bought Mac 128, or Mac 512, or Mac Plus. As for the paucity of software, why don't you go ahead and check to see how many years passed before anything useful came out for the Mac. Just a few kind thoughts. OR UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd ucsd nosc}!crash!pnet01!oleg ARPA: crash!pnet01!oleg@nosc.mil INET: oleg@pnet01.cts.com
jonabbey@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Abbey) (03/28/90)
Oleg Rovner writes: |Wow. As I sit here and read pearls of wisdom from J. Abbey, M. Barret et al, I |keep reminding to remember their messages so that I could tell those poor [boy, yeah, the Amiga is obsolete, isn't is, well, look at this..] deleted |Titler and ProVideo gold as well as DigiPaint3 that they are all wasting their |time on an antiquated machine, unusable for professional applications. Well Mr |Abbey and Mr Barret, to steal a phrase from Mark Twain, "rumours of Amiga's |death have been greatly exxagerated" Take a look at February's BYTE, guess |which computer gets a very nice mention in the discussion of multimedia? The |Amiga was built as an ultimate PC graphics platform. I don't think that |$15,000.00 or so that the latest Macs cost qualifies them as PCs. Hell, If HEY, look, I agree with you! I wrote in my message that I agreed with some of Marc's contentions, particularly that the Amiga doesn't have the level of professional software that the Macintosh does, either system or (in some areas) application software. And, like Marc, I believe that Unix for the Amiga could be a very good thing. However, I also believe that with the effort Commodore is currently putting in to the Amiga, and the generally excellent level of video and animation software and hardware for the Amiga that the Amiga is really going places these days. I am more optimistic about the Amiga now than I have been at any time since the Andy Warhol interview in Amiga World. I have had an Amiga since the very beginning, I love it, and I intend to upgrade it to the best of my meager resources' ability. I truly believe it is the best machine for the average human being. I'm sorry if my post was viewed any other way. It should have been read in this way: Yes, the Amiga has some problems. The Amiga also has a lot of strengths, and is getting stronger. It's an uphill battle to get the Amiga to the level of use and acceptance that the Macintosh enjoys. Mr. Copperman has taken some radically intelligent steps to bring this about and they will quite possibly be very, very successful. | Just a few kind thoughts. I have already written far too much on this subject already. If you'd like to discuss this, I would be more than willing to carry this on via e-mail. Thanks. Jonathan Abbey (512) 926-5934 | Amiga Programmer Wanna-be jonabbey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu bix: jonabbey +----------------------------- The University of Texas at Austin - CS Undergrad | Speaking for myself, at best