BARRETT%FOREST.ECIL.IASTATE.EDU@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Marc Barrett) (04/11/90)
This is a terrible thing to say about a person, but I cannot wait
until Irving Guould dies. He has done nothing but try to kill the
Amiga since Commodore bought it in 1984. What with those multi-million-
dollar annual bonuses he gives himself (10% of Commodore's annual
profits!) and expense account expenses, he is still trying to kill
the Amiga.
I am ashamed to be a Commodore stockholder. I did not buy the stock
for profits, but so that my letters to Commodore would carry more weight.
But Guould and Mehdi Ali (actually, I think Mr. Ali is an even worse
threat than Guould) have done absolutely nothing to reward stockholders
for their investments in the company.
Last Fall, Commodore spent $16 Million on an advertizing compaign.
At the same time, Guould and Ali grabbed a total of $4 Million for
themselves. What did these two do to deserve that much money?? They
don't deserve big bonuses, THEY DESERVE TO BE SHOT!!
At a time when Commodore is really struggling to gain a market
share in North America -- and is resorting to laying off critical
technical support people in Canada (how is THAT supposed to increase
sales, anyway?) -- these two people (I hesitate to call them that)
are doing nothing but attempt to speed up the sinking. I really
hope Copperman has the guts to do something (anything!) to overthrow
these two, so that Commodore can really get some work done.
-MB-rick@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Rick Spanbauer) (04/11/90)
In article <16448@snow-white.udel.EDU> BARRETT%FOREST.ECIL.IASTATE.EDU@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > > This is a terrible thing to say about a person, but I cannot wait >until Irving Guould dies. He has done nothing but try to kill the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Amiga since Commodore bought it in 1984. What with those multi-million- >dollar annual bonuses he gives himself (10% of Commodore's annual >profits!) and expense account expenses, he is still trying to kill >the Amiga. [assinine ramblings deleted] Does anyone else find this Barrett guy to be objectionable? If so lets get together and get him off the net at least until he matures a bit (say 20 years ;-)). This last posting is just too much, even for Usenet. Who is the news administrator for ecil.iastate.edu? Rick Spanbauer State U of NY/Stony Brook > -MB-
andrewt@watnow.waterloo.edu (Andrew Thomas) (04/12/90)
In article <7590@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rick@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Rick Spanbauer) writes: >In article <16448@snow-white.udel.EDU> BARRETT%FOREST.ECIL.IASTATE.EDU@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: >> >> This is a terrible thing to say about a person, but I cannot wait >>until Irving Guould dies. He has done nothing but try to kill the > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>Amiga since Commodore bought it in 1984. What with those multi-million- >>dollar annual bonuses he gives himself (10% of Commodore's annual >>profits!) and expense account expenses, he is still trying to kill >>the Amiga. > > [assinine ramblings deleted] > > Does anyone else find this Barrett guy to be objectionable? > If so lets get together and get him off the net at least Actually, I find Marc Barrett's postings a very refreshing change from the praise and backpatting. It is sometimes stated a bit strongly, but I would prefer to maintain a variety of opinion than just stomp anybody who sounds like he has a negative attitude. I would like to make my own decisions about which postings represent negativism and which represent a dissenting opinion. And I would like to see dissenting opinion. Just my thoughts, freedom of speech (within reason) and all that. -- Andrew Thomas andrewt@watnow.waterloo.edu Systems Design Eng. University of Waterloo "If a million people do a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing." - Opus
chandra@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Kevin M. Kilbride) (04/13/90)
Perhaps greed doesn't warrant the death penalty, but they could certainly use to be booted. I might add, however, that Apple is not free from the same practices at the upper levels of its own management, yet they are doing quite well. The difference is that Apple's management seems to get work done and Commodore's doesn't. The A3000, when and IF it comes out, had better be pretty darned impressive. I bought an A1000 almost as soon as the machine became available because I was impressed with the technology and price. As the years have gone by, I find that the Amiga has not kept pace with changes in computer technology to the extent that the Macintosh and PC have; consequently, what once was a huge lead in innovation has narrowed to a rapidly shrinking, not-so-big gap. I have no loyalty to Commodore as a company--if somebody else came along with a better machine at a comparable price, I would move to it, and I think many other Amiga users would, too, though I cannot speak for others. The clock is ticking for the Amiga. Somebody had better wake up. --chandra
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (04/14/90)
BARRETT%FOREST.ECIL.IASTATE.EDU@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > This is a terrible thing to say about a person, but I cannot wait >until Irving Guould dies. He has done nothing but try to kill the So what are you Marc? A Schizo? I mean, first we get rambling, then a nice coherent productive message, then something like this! If you don't like Commodore, sell your stock. If Gould is the monster you say he is, then that's your only bet. I doubt your rambling will change a thing, if your letters to Commodore read anything like your postings here on usenet. Keep your messages coherent and not so inflammatory. People will listen to construtive criticism more than they will destructive. But of course there can be too much of even constructive criticism. We don't need to hear how lousy you think CBM is every week. One message is enough. -- John Sparks | D.I.S.K. 24hrs 2400bps. Accessable via Starlink (Louisville KY) sparks@corpane.UUCP | | PH: (502) 968-DISK If you've seen one nuclear war, you've seen them all.
root@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Systems Staff) (04/14/90)
In article <2553@darkstar.ucsc.edu> chandra@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Kevin M. Kilbride) writes: >Perhaps greed doesn't warrant the death penalty, but they could >certainly use to be booted. I might add, however, that Apple is >not free from the same practices at the upper levels of its own >management, yet they are doing quite well. The difference is that >Apple's management seems to get work done and Commodore's doesn't. Would you mind defining what you mean by greed? If people can never earn top dollar, then what sort of salary restraints are you suggesting be implemented, eg "no person can make more than $20K/year"? This particular line of postings complaining over salaries is starting to sound an awful lot like Eastern Block thinking. Were you in a similar position, what would YOU do with your $2M bonus? Give me some data points comparing Apple & CBM management, please. >--chandra Rick Spanbauer State U of NY/Stony Brook