[comp.sys.amiga] Which OpenLook for Amiga?

nhoj@hicom.hitachi.com (John Marvin) (05/02/90)

Which OpenLook?

The Amiga UNIX is supposed to run OpenLook, my question is which
toolkit will it use?  AT&T xt toolkit based or Sun xview toolkit?
I vote for xview, the API is much nicer...

John Marvin  Hitachi Computer Products
j_marvin@hitachi.com

jcb@frisbee.Sun.COM (Jim Becker) (05/05/90)

nhoj@hicom.hitachi.com (John Marvin) writes:

   Which OpenLook?

   The Amiga UNIX is supposed to run OpenLook, my question is which
   toolkit will it use?  AT&T xt toolkit based or Sun xview toolkit?
   I vote for xview, the API is much nicer...

   John Marvin  Hitachi Computer Products
   j_marvin@hitachi.com


My guess is neither.  Open Look is a *specification*,  rather  than  a
toolkit.    It's  very  possible  that  Jim  Macraz  converted/rewrote
Intuition to look & feel like Open Look, but didn't  base  it  on  the
existing toolkits. It would be easiest to take this approach, starting
from Intuition, than to base it off of existing X/Unix solutions.

If Xt+ was used that drags you into the land of the Intrinsics and the
X  Window  System.   If  XView is used you are also in the X world but
there is plenty of Unix (and BSD) specific stuff within  it.  I  doubt
that  getting  this  to  work  on AmigaDOS would be easy. (I know both
pretty intimately.)


-Jim Becker

 XView Development Group
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	 Jim Becker / jcb%frisbee@sun.com  / Sun Microsystems

abair@turbinia.sps.mot.com (Alan Bair) (05/05/90)

As I understand the AT&T distribution of UNIX SYSV.4, it will include the
Xt+ toolkit. I have read this several times and heard it at a Sun presentation
about X11/News and where Sun & AT&T are going with UNIX.  So I suspect CBM
will just provide the  toolkit and clients provided by AT&T.  Though they
will have to port the server to make use of the Amiga's special hardware.


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Motorola, Inc.            Austin, Texas
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jimm@amiga.UUCP (Jim Mackraz) (05/07/90)

In article <135234@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> jcb@frisbee.Sun.COM (Jim Becker) writes:
)nhoj@hicom.hitachi.com (John Marvin) writes:
)
)   Which OpenLook?
)
)   The Amiga UNIX is supposed to run OpenLook, my question is which
)   toolkit will it use?  AT&T xt toolkit based or Sun xview toolkit?
)   I vote for xview, the API is much nicer...

)My guess is neither.  Open Look is a *specification*,  rather  than  a
)toolkit.    It's  very  possible  that  Jim  Macraz  converted/rewrote
)Intuition to look & feel like Open Look, but didn't  base  it  on  the
)existing toolkits. It would be easiest to take this approach, starting
)from Intuition, than to base it off of existing X/Unix solutions.

Well, anything's possible, my friend, but his question was about Amiga Unix.
I think I put in enough support to do a lot of OPEN LOOK under todays
Intuition, but not pop-up menus (sorry) and four-corner sizing, to
name two.  I really like Open Look a lot, at least by reading the
(excellent) spec.

Intuition is still very quick, not using a networked model.

)If Xt+ was used that drags you into the land of the Intrinsics and the
)X  Window  System.   If  XView is used you are also in the X world but
)there is plenty of Unix (and BSD) specific stuff within  it.  I  doubt
)that  getting  this  to  work  on AmigaDOS would be easy. (I know both
)pretty intimately.)

The unix uses X, and as I understand it, SVR4 comes with lots o'
toolkits.  I would imagine that as sorts out SVR4, so sorts out Amiga Unix.

	jimm

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