jwilson@urbsdc.Urbana.Gould.COM (09/03/88)
[line eater, eat your heart out ] Stephen Wolfram, the creator of Mathmatica, the amazing math program now available for the Macintosh ( oops, sorry if that shockes anyone) is interested in porting the program to other machines, including the Amiga. However, he is not sure if that would be a good thing to do. If you are interested in this program, you can express your interst by mailing math@wri.com on internet. Please, don't just mail him if you want to say "yea, we should have everything the mac has," but aren't seriously interested in purchasing the program. It is a serious program; according to Wolfram, the Mac version requires a minimum of 2 Meg, and to do anything really interesting, it can take 2.5 - 4 Meg The software also costs $500 ( regular version ) to $800 ( mac II version). If you are seriously interested, and have a machine capable of running the program, you might want to express your interest to Wolfram, and point out the advantages of porting the program to the Amiga ( the graphics interface, the knowlegeable user base, etc.) What followes is a general statment made by Wolfram on the University of Illinois net. My signature is at the bottom. If you have trouble mailing directly to the Mathmatica people, you can mail to me, and I will forward. /* Written 1:42 pm Sep 2, 1988 by liberte@m.cs.uiuc.edu in urbsdc:uiuc.mathematica */ /* ---------- "Mathematica information" ---------- */ The following is from Stephen Wolfram: ------------------------------------- I've seen quite a bit of talk on the net about Mathematica, and I wanted to set a few things straight. 1. Mathematica for the Macintosh 1.1 Availability Mathematica for the Macintosh has been shipping (in quite large quantities) since the day it was announced: June 23. We seemed to have confused some people by not following what seems to be the industry standard of pre-announcing one's product. You can get Mathematica either directly from us, or from various dealers (such as ComputerWare in Palo Alto). Our prices are: $495 for the standard Macintosh version $795 for the Mac II version. Our number is: 1-800-441-MATH (for orders); 217-398-0700 (otherwise). So far as we know, Mathematica is not available through any discount mail-order houses. We have various special deals for universities. One deal involves a huge discount for large universities that bundle Mathematica with all the Macs that they resell. 1.2 Memory Mathematica needs a lot of memory to run well. We had originally thought that many of users would do rather simple things with Mathematica, so that 2 MB would be enough. Our users seem to be doing MUCH more sophisticated (and interesting) things than we had expected, and 2 MB isn't usually enough. With 4 or 5 MB, Mathematica will run really well. With 2.5 MB you can do a lot more than with 2 MB. It would be a lot better for all of us if memory were cheaper, or the Mac had virtual memory. (I'm happy to say that it looks as if the price by weight of 1 megabit SIMMs has now gone below the current price of gold.) 1.3 Documentation The main documentation for the kernel of Mathematica (the part that actually does the computations) is the book that I wrote, which is published by Addison-Wesley. The title is: "Mathematica: A System for Doing Mathematics by Computer". There is both a paperback ($29.95) and a hardback ($44.25) version. If you can't find these books in your local bookstore, call Addison-Wesley. (The person in charge of the Mathematica project at Addison-Wesley is Allan Wylde: 415-594-4444.) We're now shipping the hardback version of the book with the Macintosh software. (This has depleted supplies of the hardback from the first printing of the book, so right now, you may only be able to get the paperback from bookstores.) 1.4 Versions The current version of Mathematica for the Macintosh is 1.03. This version includes animation, and various other features not in 1.0. Unless you specifically call to request it, the first upgrade we will send you is Version 1.1. Version 1.1 will be ready to ship within a few weeks (the software is being tested; manufacturing is underway). This version includes a number of small fixes, together with some new features. Most notable among these is the ability to digitize mouse input -- if you click on a graph, you can have the coordinates of where you click fed into Mathematica. So long as you send in your registration card, you will get a free upgrade to 1.1 when it is ready. 2. Mathematica for Other Machines 2.1 Sun Workstations Mathematica will be available for Sun-3, Sun-4 and Sun 386i from Sun Microsystems. They assure us that it will be shipping within a month or so. Contact your local Sun sales representative for more information. The product manager for Mathematica at Sun is Andy MacRae (415-336-1047; amacrae@sun.com). If you're interested in seeing Mathematica be available on Sun-2's, please tell Andy MacRae. 2.2 IBM PC RT Mathematica will be available from IBM on the RT under AIX. Contact your local IBM sales representative for more information. The list price for Mathematica on the RT is $2000. The person responsible for Mathematica in the RT division of IBM is Vicky Markstein (512-823-4072). 2.3 Silicon Graphics Mathematica will be available from Silicon Graphics on Iris 4D workstations. The list price is $8000 (commercial); $4000 (educational). The interim contact person at Silicon Graphics is Lisa Paul (415-962-3361). Mathematica does some neat stuff on the Iris, using the Iris 3D graphics hardware. You can take 3D objects generated by Mathematica, and manipulate them in real time using external programs that come with Mathematica for the Iris. If you're interested in Mathematica for Iris Series 3000 machines, let Lisa Paul know. 2.4 Ardent and Stellar Versions of Mathematica are available from Ardent and Stellar for their machines. The list price is $8000 (commercial); $4000 (educational). The contact people are: Jim Newcombe at Ardent (408-732-0400) and Ian Reid at Stellar (617-964-1000). 2.5 NeXT Mathematica will be bundled on NeXT's machine, which we all hope will be out very soon. 2.6 Other Platforms We are actively working on ports of Mathematica to a number of other machines -- watch for an announcement around November. We'd be very interested feedback that anyone can give us on the desirability of having Mathematica on particular systems, e.g. Alliant Apple Mac A/UX Apollo Atari Mega AT&T UNIX PC (3B1) Commodore Amiga Convex Cray UNICOS DEC VAX: VMS or UNIX ETA Hewlett-Packard IBM mainframes (3090 etc.) IBM PC's: 386-based under MS-DOS; 286-based under MS-DOS; Under OS/2; Under Xenix; etc. Meiko Sony Tektronix. We are considering making a version of Mathematica for the AT&T UNIX PC available (probable price: $400). We will do this if there is enough interest. Please let us know if you're interested (end users, dealers, distributors, etc.) There is talk of setting up a consumer-oriented time sharing service that would let people use Mathematica on a supercomputer with over a gigabyte of memory. The idea is that you would set up a calculation on something like a Macintosh, but then, if you ran out of time or space, you could dial up the supercomputer and run the kernel remotely on that. Every version of Mathematica has the communication mechanisms necessary to do this built in. We're trying to gauge the level of interest in this service. Please let us have your comments. 3. Mathematica User Group etc. There are moves afoot to start a Mathematica User Group, which will maintain a library of Mathematica packages and notebooks, produce a newsletter, and run conferences. It will also coordinate with local user groups. The first president of the Mathematica User Group will be Steve Christensen of NCSA (217-244-0544; steve@ncsa.uiuc.edu). 4. Mathematica Developers I'm very happy to say that many people have contacted us about doing third-party development associated with Mathematica. We are now in the process of preparing an information kit for potential developers, that should be ready to send in 1-2 weeks. Please contact us if you would like one. 5. Mathematica Objects 5.1 T-Shirts We made some Mathematica T-shirts, which seem to have been selling even faster than the program. They cost $8 each; write or call us if you want one. 5.2 1989 Calendar We are intending to produce a 1989 Mathematica calender, with large color pictures generated by Mathematica. If you've produced some particularly nice-looking graphics with Mathematica, we'd very much like to consider it for the calendar. 6. Feedback, Please We'd really like to know what people are doing with Mathematica. One of the most satisfying things about writing programs is seeing people do imaginative and interesting things with them. If you are doing something exciting with Mathematica, do post a notice about it to a newsgroup, or send us mail about it. -- Stephen Wolfram. P.S. You can send mail to math@wri.com. EOF /* End of text from urbsdc:uiuc.mathematica */ Jeff Wilson jwilson@xenurus.gould.com uiucuxc!urbsdc!jwilson sometimes of the University of Illinois, sometimes of Gould CSD-Urbana Software Development Center ( a subsidiary of Nippon Mining Corp), always of the Amiga community.
mriley@pnet02.cts.com (Mark Riley) (09/04/88)
>> Mathematica posting
Ok, that was a very interesting posting, but if I'm not mistaken doesn't
the net frown on blatantly commercial postings? Even though this is a
cross-posting, I think the article come's across as highly commercial.
I wouldn't mind posting an ad for a thing or two here, but have refrained
since I gathered (maybe incorrectly) that they were not allowed. I
would think ads were a diservice to the owners of the host machines the net
is running on since they're basicly footing the bill for such
advertisements.
I haven't been on the net all that long, so someone please correct me
if I'm wrong on this count (in which case I'll have someone post an
ad for me on my behalf or some such...)
Ok, flame(off);
-Mark-
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"Hey, I don't _use_ programs, I write them..." ;-)ejkst@cisunx.UUCP (Eric J. Kennedy) (09/08/88)
In article <26700015@urbsdc> jwilson@urbsdc.Urbana.Gould.COM writes: >Stephen Wolfram, the creator of Mathmatica, the amazing math program now >available for the Macintosh ( oops, sorry if that shockes anyone) is interested >in porting the program to other machines, including the Amiga. However, he Great. 269 lines about Mathmatica, and I still don't know what it does. -- ------------ Eric Kennedy ejkst@cisunx.UUCP
chk@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca (C. Harald Koch) (11/04/88)
I have seen many references to a 'thing' called Mathematica. So, for my dumb question of the day: What is Mathematica? -- C. Harald Koch NTT Systems, Inc., Toronto, Ontario chk@zorac.dciem.dnd.ca, chk@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu, chk@chk.mef.unicus.com Note: some sites may still have zorac.dciem.dnd.ca as zorac.ARPA. "I give you my phone number. If you worry, call me. I'll make you happy."
a468@mindlink.UUCP (Graham Parkinson) (02/13/89)
As for Mathematica on the Amiga. If such a product was available
purchasing 3Mb of memory would be a reasonable thing to obtain the
utility of a generalized math library. Count me in as a Potential
Amiga Mathematica customer. Graph(Fourier(dataset))) would be great
in my business of geophysics.
Graham Parkinson
Vancouver B.C. Canadadhines@utastro.UUCP (Dean Hines) (02/14/89)
There is a rep. visiting our campus this week. I plan to attend and ask plenty of questions, in addition to lobbying for an Amiga port. I'll post the results ASAP. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dean Hines Disclaimer: What? disclaim? Me? | | Astronomy | | University of Texas "Always store beer in a dark | | dhines@astro.as.utexas.edu place." | | dhines@utastro.UUCP Lazarus Long | ---------------------------------------------------------------------
eberger@godot.psc.edu (Ed Berger) (02/22/89)
This Friday, February 24, 1989, Steve Wolfram is giving a seminar on Mathematica at the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center. I have to pick-up/set-up the machine for the Seminar. He requested, specifically, a machine with 8MB and color monitor... I guess we can expect an amiga version to work with 512K :) :) :) -- Ed Berger eberger@godot.psc.edu Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center eberger@cpwpsca.bitnet
dhines@utastro.UUCP (Dean Hines) (02/24/89)
In article <585@godot.psc.edu>, eberger@godot.psc.edu (Ed Berger) writes: > This Friday, February 24, 1989, Steve Wolfram is giving a seminar on > Mathematica at the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center. > I have to pick-up/set-up the machine for the Seminar. He requested, > specifically, a machine with 8MB and color monitor... > I guess we can expect an amiga version to work with 512K :) :) :) > -- > Ed Berger eberger@godot.psc.edu > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center eberger@cpwpsca.bitnet I posted that a rep. was to be here on campus. Well, as luck would have it, I was unable to attend afterall :-{ Talking with friends, they report that not much was said about amigas (not suprising since UT has an educational contract w/ Apple). It sounds like Ed will have much more luck than I ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dean Hines Disclaimer: What? disclaim? Me? | | Astronomy | | University of Texas "Always store beer in a dark | | dhines@astro.as.utexas.edu place." | | dhines@utastro.UUCP Lazarus Long | ---------------------------------------------------------------------
C503719@umcvmb.missouri.edu (Baird McIntosh) (04/10/89)
The following information was taken from a brochure dated February 21,
1989, from Wolfram Research, Inc., which gives some information about the
current state of Mathematica. I also witnessed a monochrome demo of the
program on a Macintosh II, but some of the more advanced things like 3D
graphs and animation were just briefly shown. Well, here's some info:
[hopefully this is NEWS to some people]
M A T H E M A T I C A
- - - - - - - - - - -
A system for doing mathematics by computer.
Numbers- Mathematica can do numerical computations of any precision.
Formulas- Mathematica can solve problems in algebra and calculus.
Graphics- Mathematica can plot functions and data.
Visualization- Mathematica can generate 2- and 3-dimensional Postscript images
in black-and-white or color.
Interactive Programming- Mathematica is a powerful symbolic programming
language.
Defining Mathematical Rules- You can convert formulas from textbooks almost
directly into Mathematica transformation rules.
Interactive Documents- On Macintosh and NeXT computers [Amiga? :-) ],
Mathematica lets you mix text, animated graphics, and
Mathematica input.
Front Ends- Special user interfaces take advantage of the capabilities of
particular computer systems.
** General Facts about Mathematica **
Purpose: Numerical, symbolic, and graphical computation; symbolic
programming language.
Versions (as of December 1988): Apple Macintosh and Macintosh II;
386-based MS-DOS systems; Ardent Titan;
IBM AIX/RT; MIPS M/120; NeXT; Silicon
Graphics Iris 4D; Sony NEWS; Stellar
GS-1000; Sun 3, 4 and 386i. All versions
are full implementations of the
Mathematica system.
[note that the IBM version is not expected until this summer,
and an Amiga version was mentioned as being considered.]
Machine Dependence: Operation of kernel is independent of machine
(except for commands requiring multitasking
[Amiga Amiga Amiga! :-) ] );
front ends are built for specific machines.
Mode of Operation: Interpreter (transformation rules are compiled into
internal form). Open architecture for connection to
external programs.
Size of Program: 1.5 - 3 megabytes of compiled code, depending on computer
system (150,000 lines of extended C source code).
Memory Requirements: At least 1 megabyte of working space; total memory
needed depends on memory management used by operating
system. (On Macintosh requires at least 2.5 MB;
on 386-based MS-DOS systems, 1 MB of extended memory.)
** Prices [paraphrased] **
Macintosh Systems: o Standard Version: $495
o Macintosh II Version: $795
386 Version: $695 (no floating pt. coprocessor required)
386/7 Version: $995 (287 or 387 coprocessor required)
386/Weitek Version: $1295 (Weitek coprocessor required)
--
Well, that's all I dare post here. I apologize for the length, but this
brochure contains much more info about numerical computation, symbolic
computation, graphics, basic structure, external interface, Mac versions, and
MS-DOS 386 Versions. The primary documentation for Mathematica is the book:
Mathematica: A System for Doing Mathematics by Computer (768 pages), by
Stephen Wolfram, published by Addison-Wesley Publishing Company <---+
(Hdcover: $44.25; Pprback: $29.95; local bookstore/call 1-800-447-2226.)
Mathematica's Principal Designer is Stephen Wolfram of Wolfram Research,
Inc. -- Wolfram Research, Inc.
P.O. Box 6059,
Champaign, Illinois 61821
217-398-0700
Mathematica and Postcript and any other proper nouns used in this post are
probably trademarks of someone, so be careful! :-) If anyone would like more
info from this brochure, send me email and reference any specific topics that
you want info about (I listed them above). Sorry, if this post is too
commercial in appearance, but I remembered discussion about this program
earlier in the year, and since I have the info, I thought I would share it.
Baird McIntosh
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Anyone investigating the purchase of a symbolic math package should read the review of same in the Feb 3, 1989 issue of _Science_ magazine. It comes down pretty hard on Mathematica. A salesman from Wolfram told me that a new version will ship in about 30 days, but he didn't know how many of the concerns in the _Science_ article are addressed. -- Stephen Walton, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Univ. Northridge RCKG01M@CALSTATE.BITNET ecphssrw@afws.csun.edu swalton@solar.stanford.edu ...!csun!afws.csun.edu!ecphssrw
farhi@athena.mit.edu (Bill Hoston) (02/01/90)
Ed Bartz writes: > Sometime ago I read something about someone porting Mathmatica >to the amiga. Did anything ever come of that? If not, has anyone >tried using the Mac version on the AMAX? I hate to buy all that >hardware just for that, but if necessary....... > > Thanks, > > Ed Bartz I have heard various rumors about such a port, but my suggestion is that you get Maple from Maple Waterloo Software instead. Maple seems to enjoy far more acceptance in the world of symbolic mathematics and is available for the Amiga. I think the general opinion is that it is both more able and more stable. It does lack the glitz of Mathematica's Macintosh user interface. I own the package and am happy with it (though it would be nice to have an A26x0 board for some speedup). I believe the recommended configuration is 1M and a hard drive. I can't remember how much I paid for the program. The list price is either $495 or $395 Canadian. This was with an educational discount. Version 4.2 is available for the present AmigaOS. Some other machines are up to version 4.3. When I last spoke to a rep. of WMSI, he said they were working on v4.3 for AMIX. (I don't think anyone will mind my having said that). Bill Hoston farhi@athena.mit.edu
jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (02/05/90)
All of the versions of Mathematica that I have seen on the Macintosh require 256K ROM's which Amax does not support, but there may be a 128K ROM version available. You also need a hard drive to effectively if at all use Mathematica (the kernel is a 3 megabyte file on the NeXT) which will not be supported until the next version of Amax with one or two exceptions. Post what you discover. I would like to have Mathematica on my machine once get the money (to get Mathematica and some more RAM beyond my 3 megabytes for it). James
harper@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (02/19/90)
I have seen Mathematica running on an Amiga 2500/30 with 8 Meg ram and HD with no problems. We tried a lot of stuff, and it never encountered any problems.
murphy@pur-phy (William J. Murphy) (02/21/90)
In article <15500017@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> harper@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > >I have seen Mathematica running on an Amiga 2500/30 with 8 Meg ram and HD with >no problems. We tried a lot of stuff, and it never encountered any problems. Would you care to provide some dates and times when you saw this? I recall that Wolfram Research Inc. said they had no plans to port Mathematica to the Amiga. In fact, maybe you could provide the name(s) and e-mail address(es) of someone who can verify this. Preferably someone from WRI. -- Bill Murphy murphy@newton.physics.purdue.edu Enjoying my Amiga 2000, but holding out for a real computer: The Amiga 3000!!
jac@muslix.llnl.gov (James Crotinger) (02/21/90)
In article <15500017@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> harper@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > >I have seen Mathematica running on an Amiga 2500/30 with 8 Meg ram and HD with >no problems. We tried a lot of stuff, and it never encountered any problems. Do you mean under AMAX? Could you elaborate? Jim
dlj@hpfcso.HP.COM (Dave Jobusch) (02/21/90)
>/ hpfcso:comp.sys.amiga / harper@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu / 6:39 pm Feb 18, 1990 / >I have seen Mathematica running on an Amiga 2500/30 with 8 Meg ram and HD with >no problems. We tried a lot of stuff, and it never encountered any problems. >---------- Huh? Since when is Mathematica available on the Amiga ??!!!! +----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+ | ___ | David L. Jobusch | | / / | Distributed Systems Suppport | | HEWLETT/hp/PACKARD | 3404 East Harmony Road MS#68 | | /__/ | Ft. Collins, CO 80525 | | Fort Collins Site | Internet: dlj@hpfcla.hp.com | |Information Technology| Voice : 303.229.6637 | +----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+
ja26612@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (02/21/90)
/* Written 6:51 pm Feb 18, 1990 by harper@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu in uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.amiga */ I have seen Mathematica running on an Amiga 2500/30 with 8 Meg ram and HD with no problems. We tried a lot of stuff, and it never encountered any problems. /* End of text from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.amiga */
harper@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (02/21/90)
Sorry for any confusion I caused, but the article I posted a response to was referring to running the MAC Mathematica on the Amiga using AMAX. This is what I was referring to, and it did run fine on the Amiga.
jhc00614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (02/22/90)
I'll back you up on that. My roommate works for Mathematica here on
campus at UIUC. They have no plans to write Mathematica for the Amiga.
Let's hope we'll see Maple instead.mann@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Shannon Mann) (02/26/90)
In article <46200029@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> jhc00614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > > I'll back you up on that. My roommate works for Mathematica here on >campus at UIUC. They have no plans to write Mathematica for the Amiga. > Let's hope we'll see Maple instead. Maple is already available for the amiga. I wrote to them and they sent me out a contract and everything. Student cost $500.00 Perhaps some other person here at waterloo could tell you more. I lent the specs they sent me to a friend... I think they can be reached at wmsi@watmum (could be another machine, I am not sure...) -=- -=- Shannon Mann -=- mann@watserv1.UWaterloo.Ca -=-
rumford@afitamy.fidonet.org (Don Rumford) (03/02/90)
> I'll back you up on that. My roommate works for > Mathematica here on > campus at UIUC. They have no plans to write Mathematica for > the Amiga. > Let's hope we'll see Maple instead. How about MatLab and Spice, already available for Amy in PD? -Don- -- Don Rumford - via FidoNet node 1:110/300 UUCP: uunet!dayvb!afitamy!rumford ARPA: rumford@afitamy.fidonet.org ---------> The AFIT Amiga Users BBS/UFGateway Dayton, Oh. 1:110/300 Give me Amiga or give me boredom!
jac@muslix.llnl.gov (James Crotinger) (03/06/90)
In article <145.25EE1610@afitamy.fidonet.org> rumford@afitamy.fidonet.org (Don Rumford) writes: > >How about MatLab and Spice, already available for Amy in PD? > MatLab is a linear algebra package, and as such, is nice, but it hardly fills the void left by Mathematica, which not only does linear algebra, but also does arbitrary precision math, know about every special function you've ever heard of, does symbolic math, does various kinds of numerical things (integration, limits, solutions of nonlinear equations), and does very nice graphics. I've been using it on the Suns and the Mac, and I've been very impressed. I'm not an electrical engineer, but isn't Spice a circuit layout program? I would like to see a demo of Maple. I've heard that it's available on the Amiga, but I don't think I've ever heard a review. >-- > >Don Rumford - via FidoNet node 1:110/300 >UUCP: uunet!dayvb!afitamy!rumford >ARPA: rumford@afitamy.fidonet.org >---------> The AFIT Amiga Users BBS/UFGateway Dayton, Oh. 1:110/300 >Give me Amiga or give me boredom! > Jim Crotinger (jac@gandalf.llnl.gov)
d88-mbe@sm.luth.se (Michael Bergman) (05/02/90)
Ok, so Mathematica doesn't exist for the Amiga. (And if it did, I don't have
4-5 megs to run it in...)
Well, what is the best mathematics program available? We use PC-MATLAB(tm) a
lot here in the education, and I rather like it. It runs on 640K AT clones,
it's fast and it has lots and lots of tools not available in the freeware
version of Matlab for Amiga. (Which isn't fast on a 7 MHz machine..!)
Is there a commercial package that performs somewhere at PC-MATLAB's standards?
Mike
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UUCP: {uunet,mcvax}!sunic.se!sm.luth.se!d88-mbevinsci@ra.abo.fi (Leonard Norrgard) (05/03/90)
No, Mathematica does not exist for the Amiga, but MAPLE does! Maple comes from Waterloo Maple Software, and looks very good in the brochures I have here. PC Magazine calls Maple "Worthy Competitor for Mathematica" in its February 27th, 1990 "First looks review". The version available for the Amiga under AmigaDOS is 4.2. For more info (including ordering info) contact: Mrs. Rita France Waterloo Maple Software 160 Columbia St. W. Waterloo, Ontario Canada N2L 3L3 (519) 747-2373 FAX: (519) 747-5284 Or E-Mail wmsi@daisy.uwaterloo.ca wmsi@daisy.waterloo.edu -- Leonard Norrgard, vinsci@ra.abo.fi, vinsci@finabo.bitnet, +358-21-6375762, EET.
stevel@arrester.caltech.edu (Steven J. Ludtke) (05/03/90)
d88-mbe@sm.luth.se (Michael Bergman) writes: >Well, what is the best mathematics program available? We use PC-MATLAB(tm) a >lot here in the education, and I rather like it. It runs on 640K AT clones, >it's fast and it has lots and lots of tools not available in the freeware >version of Matlab for Amiga. (Which isn't fast on a 7 MHz machine..!) >Is there a commercial package that performs somewhere at PC-MATLAB's standards? Well, there is a version of MATLAB for the amiga. It's PD in the current release, but the author says the next one will be commercial or shareware. It's not Mathematica, but it's quite nice and functional. The current release even has a nice little built in graphing package. I can't remember where I found it, but it was probably ftp'ed from somewhere. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- stevel@tybalt.caltech.edu CS-> | <-Ph stevel@citiago (Bitnet) \|/ I DO ... 72335,1537 (Compuserve) ?
d88-mbe@sm.luth.se (Michael Bergman) (05/03/90)
stevel@arrester.caltech.edu (Steven J. Ludtke) writes: >Well, there is a version of MATLAB for the amiga. It's PD in the current >release, but the author says the next one will be commercial or shareware. It's >not Mathematica, but it's quite nice and functional. The current release even As I said, the PD MATLAB available for Amiga is a pain in the ass when you've run PC-MATLAB(tm) (which is commercial and costs quite a lot of money.) I currently have two different versions of Amiga MATLAB and they are both like swimming in glue. But I guess if I buy an accelerator with 32-bit RAM and 68882 it will go faster... One shouldn't really expect a program running on a 7 MHz Amiga to be as fast as on an AT with FPU running at 16. The thing is I miss all those tools avalible in PC-MATLAB and not in the Amiga version. Mike -- Michael Bergman Internet: d88-mbe@sm.luth.se // Dept. of Comp. Eng. BITNET: d88-mbe%sm.luth.se@kth.se \X/ U of Lulea, SWEDEN ARPA: d88-mbe%sm.luth.se@ucbvax.berkeley.edu UUCP: {uunet,mcvax}!sunic.se!sm.luth.se!d88-mbe
kmh20822@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (05/07/90)
Mathmatica does work with AMAX if you have an '030 card! Also, I heard that originally the Amiga was going to be one of the first micros to get mathmatica. One of my friends even claimed to be helping to debug it. I never heard why it never got done.. -kevin ONLY // Kevin Hill | kmh20822@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | "The amount of intelligence AMIGA// a.k.a | +-----------------------+ | on Earth is constant. CAN!// Eddie Lee | University of Illinois | Unfortunately the population \\ // Osbourne | @ Urbana / Champaign | keeps growing!!" \X/ +--> INSERT PRO-AMIGA / ANTI-MAC SLOGAN HERE!! <--+ ;->
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (05/09/90)
d88-mbe@sm.luth.se (Michael Bergman) writes: >Ok, so Mathematica doesn't exist for the Amiga. (And if it did, I don't have >4-5 megs to run it in...) >Is there a commercial package that performs somewhere at PC-MATLAB's standards? The Amiga port of Matlab was done by Jim Locker (who has been seen around on this net). At least his name is in the readme file that comes with the package I downloaded. Now, there has been some discussion about Matlab, and I am wondering if I should send it to the comp.binaries.amiga group (I don't have the source code) But since it looks to me like Jim Locker's baby, I don't want to step on any toes. So... Jim, if you are out there, how about sending it off to comp.binaries/sources.amiga? It's an interesting package and with the number of students here on the net it will come in handy. I will wait a month and if I don't see it, or hear anything telling me not to post it, I will send it off. [It's BIG!] -- John Sparks | D.I.S.K. 24hrs 2400bps. Accessable via Starlink (Louisville KY) sparks@corpane.UUCP | | PH: (502) 968-DISK If you've seen one nuclear war, you've seen them all.
d88-mbe@sm.luth.se (Michael Bergman) (05/09/90)
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: >I will wait a month and if I don't see it, or hear anything telling me not >to post it, I will send it off. [It's BIG!] I don't think that'll be necessary. It HAS been posted to c.b.a (and c.s.a I think). Anyone who wants it can get it via anonymous ftp from xanth.cs.odu.edu or wuarchive.wustl.edu in the usenet archives. I still haven't received any useful answers to my original question though, so I'll ask again: Is there a commercial package that performs somewere at PC-MATLABS standards? NOTE: If you have never seen PC-MATLAB(tm) by Marc Ullman, you obviously can't answer this question! Mike -- Michael Bergman Internet: d88-mbe@sm.luth.se // Dept. of Comp. Eng. BITNET: d88-mbe%sm.luth.se@kth.se \X/ U of Lulea, SWEDEN ARPA: d88-mbe%sm.luth.se@ucbvax.berkeley.edu UUCP: {uunet,mcvax}!sunic.se!sm.luth.se!d88-mbe