climber@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP (climber) (06/01/90)
Is there a PD or commercial version of Big Tex for the Amiga? I have a table that ordinary TeX (with 64k limit) choked on. I had to get a very helpful friend with Big TeX on his IBM comp. to TeX it for me and send the .dvi file. Send any responses to climber@sol.UVic.ca Thanks, Craig AMIGAS ARE GREAT!!!!!!!!
cmcmanis@stpeter.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (06/02/90)
In article <1117@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP> (climber) writes: >Is there a PD or commercial version of Big Tex for the Amiga? I have >a table that ordinary TeX (with 64k limit) choked on. "Big TeX" on an IBM PC is one that is compiled in "large" model to get around the segment restrictions. There is no such beast on the Amiga because it is not necessary. AmigaTeX from Radical Eye can use as much memory as you have to format documents. (I believe the port of Common TeX can as well but it may have to be contiguous memory). -- --Chuck McManis Sun Microsystems uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: <none> Internet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. "I tell you this parrot is bleeding deceased!"
duncan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shan D Duncan) (06/02/90)
References: <1117@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP> From article <1117@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP>, by climber@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP (climber): > Is there a PD or commercial version of Big Tex for the Amiga? I have > a table that ordinary TeX (with 64k limit) choked on. I had to get > a very helpful friend with Big TeX on his IBM comp. to TeX it for > me and send the .dvi file. > > Send any responses to climber@sol.UVic.ca > > Thanks, > > Craig AMIGAS ARE GREAT!!!!!!!! Well I do not have any experience with commontex but I do have AmigaTeX from radical eye. And under the heading of making TeX larger or smaller: The variable memmax is used to store page data, macros and othersuch things and can not be extended past 65500. memtop has the same limitation. If your version did not have these values you could have created a new format file using initex. This has been done on our Univ. unix system to handle large jobs especially when using pictex and is called btex. We also have blatex. Quoting the TeXbook... "The memmax array is used to store page data, macros and almost all other requirements of TEX; unfortunately, it cannot be extended past 65500 elements." Looking in the TeX book several components can be listed when you get the message: "TeX capacity exceeded sorry" number of strings pool size main memory size hash size font memory exception dictionary input stack size sematic nest size parameter stack size buffer size save size text input levels grouping level pattern memory The macro \tracingstats set to a postivie value just before your the end of your job will print out your actural usage of the first eleven things named above in the log file. The version in of TeX in the TeXbook does not have a limit but it appears AmigaTeX does. Not sure about commontex for the amiga. You might also try posting to comp.text.tex about commontex.
wilker@gauss.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) (06/02/90)
The unit of storage in TeX is called a "word", and on Unix in some versions one has a compile time option for the size in bytes for the "word" to be used. So going up from a 4 byte word to an 8 byte word would double the memory size.
duncan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shan D Duncan) (06/02/90)
From: duncan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shan D Duncan) Path: csd4.csd.uwm.edu!duncan Newsgroups: comp.sys.amgia Subject: Re: Big TeX corrected Expires: References: Sender: Reply-To: duncan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shan D Duncan) Followup-To: Distribution: world Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milw. Biol. Sci. Dept. Keywords: From article <4259@uwm.edu>, by duncan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shan D Duncan): > > References: <1117@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP> > > From article <1117@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP>, by climber@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP (climber): >> Is there a PD or commercial version of Big Tex for the Amiga? I have >> a table that ordinary TeX (with 64k limit) choked on. I had to get >> a very helpful friend with Big TeX on his IBM comp. to TeX it for >> me and send the .dvi file. >> >> Send any responses to climber@sol.UVic.ca >> >> Thanks, >> >> Craig AMIGAS ARE GREAT!!!!!!!! > > > Well I do not have any experience with commontex but I do have > AmigaTeX from radical eye. And under the heading of > making TeX larger or smaller: > > The variable memmax is used to store page data, macros and > othersuch things and can not be extended past 65500. memtop > has the same limitation. If your version did not have these > values you could have created a new format file using initex. This > has been done on our Univ. unix system to handle large jobs > especially when using pictex and is called btex. We also have > blatex. > > Quoting the TeXbook... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sould be the AmigaTeX manual > > "The memmax array is used to store page data, macros and almost > all other requirements of TEX; unfortunately, it cannot be > extended past 65500 elements." > > > > Looking in the TeXbook ^^^^ here is where I quote the TeXBook by Knuth! several components can be listed when you > get the message: > > "TeX capacity exceeded sorry" > > number of strings > pool size > main memory size > hash size > font memory > exception dictionary > input stack size > sematic nest size > parameter stack size > buffer size > save size > text input levels > grouping level > pattern memory > > > The macro \tracingstats set to a postivie value just before your > the end of your job will print out your actural usage of the > first eleven things named above in the log file. > > > The version in of TeX in the TeXbook does not have a limit but it > appears AmigaTeX does. > > Not sure about commontex for the amiga. > > You might also try posting to comp.text.tex about commontex. > > > gesssshhhh our software didn't want to post this... tried another route via different software and messed up the posting! Corrected above. Sorry! As long as I am posting... does anybody have pictex running on the amiga? Does anybody have a set of macros to connect amigatex with mg3b? I did something like this in a hurry to the texify example in the AmigaTeX manual but haven't had time to look at the toerror file: /* This file texify's its argument */ if ~show('Libraries', 'rexxsupport.library') then if ~addlib('rexxsupport.library', 0, -30, 0) then do 'rexx-display "Can''t open rexx support library!"' exit 2 end 'rexx-buffer' buffer 'save-buffer' filename = buffer.1 options failat 5 if showlist('Ports','AmigaTeX')=0 then exit address 'AmigaTeX' 'Abort' i= 0 do while RC ~= 0 'NextPrompt' 'Abort' if i > 10 then exit end 'TeXify' filename exit _Thank_you_ -Shan
rokicki@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Tomas G. Rokicki) (06/05/90)
Sorry it took so long for me to post this; I haven't read news in a couple of days. AmigaTeX currently only supports a four-byte TeX memory word, restricting the size of the memmax array to 65500 and change words, or 131,000 bytes. This is not sufficient for any documents that require both LaTeX and PiCTeX and have either a lot of references or very complex PiCTeX pictures. I am planning to build a large TeX, using eight-byte TeX memory words (instantly doubling memory requirements before you can even increase the memmax size). This will be a completely separate executable for those who need it. I am also planning complete VF support and TeX 3.0/MF 2.0. The recommended way to do graphics is with PostScript (if you have such a printer) or with the pfilt system for including IFF/ILBM images. By the end of the summer AmigaTeX may well support PostScript images on any device, thanks to Adrian Aylward's Post library. -tom
fetrow@milton.acs.washington.edu (David Fetrow) (06/05/90)
There is at least one source for TeX that exceeds the usual TeX limits
(the source is in WEB, Email me if you're interested). This is very very
rarely necessary. We needed it for a very nasty book on Biostatistics that
has many tables of long, complicated equations in every chapter.
--
-dave fetrow- fetrow@bones.biostat.washington.edu
dfetrow@uwalocke (bitnet) {uunet}!uw-beaver!uw-entropy!fetrow
"Logic merely allows one to be wrong with authority" -- The 2nd Doctorwilker@gauss.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) (06/05/90)
The limit I've run into with smaller versions of TeX was the Hash table limit of 2500. An otherwise normal paper with macros to keep track of references and such can easily exceed the limit.
dailey@cpsin2.uucp (Chris Dailey) (06/06/90)
Speaking of TeX, could someone out there post a summary of TeX options for the Amiga? If possible, include general price ranges. If I've missed this in one of the monthly intro postings, please point me to that. If it's not in there, could it be put there? Also, how about learning to use TeX? And what are its fortes? Thanks, -- /~\ Chris Dailey (CPS Undergrad, SOC Lab Coord, AMIG user group Secretary) C oo dailey@cpsin1.cps.msu.edu (subliminal message-make WP5.1 for the Amiga) _( ^) "I am thankful for one leg. To limp is no disgrace -- / ~\ I may not be number one, but I can still run the race." -from B.C.
space@ncc1701.stgt.sub.org (Lars Soltau) (06/07/90)
In article <1990Jun4.224959.10236@Neon.Stanford.EDU> rokicki@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Tomas G. Rokicki) writes: >AmigaTeX currently only supports a four-byte TeX memory word, >restricting the size of the memmax array to 65500 and change >words, or 131,000 bytes. Hmm, at first sight 4*64K looks like 256K to me. Am I making a mistake here? -- Lars Soltau bang: <insert ridiculously long path> Bix: -- no bucks -- smart: space@ncc1701.stgt.sub.org