cmcmanis@stpeter.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (06/06/90)
Can we declare this horse officially dead? :-) Ok, my question/issue (a new
one). As an exercise, do a scan of Fish disks from 1 to the current and
count the number of bytes of source and compare it to the number of bytes
of executable per disk. Notice any disturbing trends? I have. Is this
something Fred is doing or are the submissions getting leaner. Fred? Anyone?
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"I tell you this parrot is bleeding deceased!"kosma%human-torch@stc.lockheed.com (Monty Kosma) (06/06/90)
From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis@stpeter.eng.sun.com> Can we declare this horse officially dead? :-) Ok, my question/issue (a new one). As an exercise, do a scan of Fish disks from 1 to the current and count the number of bytes of source and compare it to the number of bytes of executable per disk. Notice any disturbing trends? I have. Is this something Fred is doing or are the submissions getting leaner. Fred? Anyone? maybe everybody's just writing code that is so much more sophisticated, the binaries are getting bigger while the sources remain the same (1/2 :-)
UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) (06/07/90)
You might be right about the amount of source on Fish disks going down. One possible explanation is that the amount of *needed* source is going down. Once you've got ten or fifteen examples of how to open a Foo window on a Bar screen, why would you want another? I predict that with the advent of WB2.0, we will see a flurry of "How to create a Doodad on the Doohickey" type submissions, like there used to be in the --- dare I say it? --- old days. lee
bluneski@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Bob Luneski) (06/08/90)
In article <90157.133422UH2@psuvm.psu.edu> UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) writes: >You might be right about the amount of source on Fish disks going down. >One possible explanation is that the amount of *needed* source is going down. >Once you've got ten or fifteen examples of how to open a Foo window on >a Bar screen, why would you want another? > There's no such thing as too much source :-) Bob Luneski
fnf@fishpond.UUCP (Fred Fish) (06/09/90)
In article <136737@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> cmcmanis@stpeter.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) writes: >As an exercise, do a scan of Fish disks from 1 to the current and >count the number of bytes of source and compare it to the number of bytes >of executable per disk. Notice any disturbing trends? I have. Is this >something Fred is doing or are the submissions getting leaner. Fred? Anyone? If I am sent source with a program, the source always gets included with the binaries. I would have to agree that the availability of source is declining. For those that are interested, here is roughly the precedence order of material I consider for inclusion in the library, from highest to lowest: 1. Material submitted to me on disk directly by the author, including source, set up in my disk format with an entry for my Contents file, and reasonably interesting. I.E., all I have to do is copy it to a disk and add the Contents entry. Takes about 2 minutes to include. 2. Material submitted to me on disk by someone, possibly the author, with at least the authors knowledge and consent. May or may not be in my format and may or may not include extraneous stuff that I have to trash (such as AmigaDOS files). Source is still prefered. Usually takes about an hour to get it into the final form. 3. Material submitted to me electronically, may or may not be in my format, but typically doesn't include any extraneous junk to trash. This usually takes about an hour's worth of work to include. 4. Material that passes my way via some other source such as usenet or BIX. If really interesting and catches my attention, my be equivalent in priority to (1) or (2). Also somewhere around this priority are the disks I receive from BBS bugs that contains notes along the lines of "gee, I found all this neat stuff on BBS foobar, hope maybe you can use some of it..." Right now I have a pile of category (1) stuff that would fill a typical laundry basket, so you can see I'm rather backlogged... -Fred -- # Fred Fish, 1835 E. Belmont Drive, Tempe, AZ 85284, USA # 1-602-491-0048 asuvax!mcdphx!fishpond!fnf