kosma%human-torch@STC.LOCKHEED.COM (Monty Kosma) (06/30/90)
Well, I keep hearing about people asking for an amiga CL (very feasible
and desirable with things like 68030's and Arexx becoming widely available),
so I'd like to conduct a little marketing survey.
So, anybody interested in a Common LISP package for the amiga, please
help me out by sending me some comments. Here's some suggested topics:
1. are you intersted? what would you be willing to pay for a full
commercial version? I'd probably like a distribution structure
like Matt Dillon's DICE...a shareware version (maybe just an interpreter)
and a commercial version (with compiler, maybe even CLOS and CLIM ??)
2. What about CLOS and CLIM? I'd absolutely LOVE to have them, but how
essential are they at this point?
3. Any comments on developing and marketing this sort of thing? Anybody
interested in a joint venture, perhaps?
I think the world of Guy Steele so I'd try to stick closely to CLtL (even
though the new edition is rather huge :-)
Thanks for any replies!
monty
kosma@human-torch.lasc-research.lockheed.comsdl@linus.mitre.org (Steven D. Litvinchouk) (07/02/90)
In article <9006291700.AA19536@human-torch.lockheed.com> kosma%human-torch@STC.LOCKHEED.COM (Monty Kosma) writes: > Well, I keep hearing about people asking for an amiga CL (very feasible > and desirable with things like 68030's and Arexx becoming widely available), > so I'd like to conduct a little marketing survey. > > So, anybody interested in a Common LISP package for the amiga, please > help me out by sending me some comments. Here's some suggested topics: > > 1. are you intersted? what would you be willing to pay for a full > commercial version? I'd probably like a distribution structure > like Matt Dillon's DICE...a shareware version (maybe just an interpreter) > and a commercial version (with compiler, maybe even CLOS and CLIM ??) I'm very interested. Currently, the only object-oriented programming language commercially supported for the Amiga is C++ (Lattice), and I would definitely prefer CLOS. I guess that $400-500 is about the right price for a Common Lisp product, provided it supported CLOS. While this is more expensive than many other Amiga languages, the market is smaller, and would consist more of professional scientists and engineers whose companies can afford to pay. This also compares with $495 for Macintosh Allegro Common Lisp, from APDA. > 2. What about CLOS and CLIM? I'd absolutely LOVE to have them, but how > essential are they at this point? I do object-oriented programming a lot and so CLOS would be essential to me. As long as the product supported *some* reasonable interface to AmigaDOS, Intuition, ROM Kernel, ARexx, etc., I would be satisfied (at least for version 1.0 of the product). CLIM would be a "nice to have," perhaps for future versions of the product. > 3. Any comments on developing and marketing this sort of thing? Anybody > interested in a joint venture, perhaps? My company can't do that sort of thing. However, I might be interested in being an alpha and/or beta test site for a Common Lisp product. -- Steven Litvintchouk MITRE Corporation Burlington Road Bedford, MA 01730 (617)271-7753 ARPA: sdl@mbunix.mitre.org UUCP: ...{att,decvax,genrad,ll-xn,philabs,utzoo}!linus!sdl "Where does he get those wonderful toys?" -- J. Napier (a.k.a. "The Joker")
winston@fjcnet.GOV (Winston M. Llamas) (07/03/90)
I would definitely be interested in a full Common LISP implementation for the Amiga, especially if included CLOS (which is pretty much necessary nowadays anyway). As important as the language implementation, though, is the implementaion of the programming environment. I have Allegro CL on the Mac and I find that environment to be rather nice, if imperfect. I haven't tried Procyon Common LISP yet, though I heard that it is a well implemented product. I think a LISP implementation would naturally cost more than other language implementations for the Amiga; not only is a fully integrated LISP environment time consuming to develop, but the market for such a product, shall we say, is not "huge." In any case, if someone can come up with a nice CL implementaion on the Amiga, I'd definitely buy it. Winston