es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (06/23/90)
In article <22641@snow-white.udel.EDU> BARRETT@owl.ecil.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > > The following is a personal mail message I recieved from a friend >of mine. It was interesting enough that I thought I would echo it to >CSA to get reactions to it... > >> Business Week had an issue on the most innovative companies. I checked to >>see if Commodore was mentioned, but as usual it wasn't. They even had a list- >>ing of computer companies (and it was a good-sized one, too) and how profitable >>they are, but, again, Commodore wasn't mentioned. Atari was, though. What a >>slap in the face! Most people don't even know Atari makes computers. Atari >>is making a profit, but it's down drastically from last year. Commodore is NOT an American-based company and that might have been the reason for the lack of inclusion. You might also have noticed that Commodore hasn't been very profitable recently! BTW, the former is the reason that Commodore isn't listed in the Fortune 500, whereas Atari was (they dropped out this past year). Commodore would be around 400th. -- Ethan Ethan Solomita: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu "If Commodore had to market sushi they'd call it `raw cold fish'" -- The Bandito, inevitably stolen from someone else
gunda@cbmehq.UUCP (Gunda O'Neal ESCO) (07/10/90)
>>>they are, but, again, Commodore wasn't mentioned. Atari was, though. What a That's definately new for me ! Where is it based ? Tell me more about it ! I want to know where my mother is ! > -- Ethan > -- Gunda O'Neal, Assistant Commodore European Support & Coordination Office (ESCO) UUCP: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmehq!gunda "I am easy to please, as long as things go my way ..."
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (07/10/90)
In-Reply-To: message from es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu While you're right about Commodore not being included in this list and in the F500 because it's not a US based company, you're wrong about C= not being profitable. At our last user group meeting, our guest speaker was the district educational sales manager for Commodore, based in Dallas. He comes from NCR and turned down IBM to work for Commodore! He stated that C= is a STRONG company, stronger than most people think since they base success on how a company does on Wall Street...success there is paper and nothing else. Sean //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc | ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil | " Fanatics have their INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com | dreams, wherewith they | weave a paradise for RealWorld: Sean Cunningham | a sect. " Voice: (512) 994-1602 PLINK: ce3k* | -Keats | Call C.B.A.U.G. BBS (512) 883-8351 w/SkyPix | B^) VISION GRAPHICS B^) \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (07/10/90)
In article <970@cbmehq.UUCP> gunda@cbmehq.UUCP (Gunda O'Neal ESCO) writes: >>>>they are, but, again, Commodore wasn't mentioned. Atari was, though. What a > >That's definately new for me ! >Where is it based ? >Tell me more about it ! I want to know where my mother is ! > >> -- Ethan >> >-- >Gunda O'Neal, Assistant >Commodore European Support & Coordination Office (ESCO) >UUCP: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmehq!gunda >"I am easy to please, as long as things go my way ..." -- Ethan Ethan Solomita: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu "If Commodore had to market sushi they'd call it `raw cold fish'" -- The Bandito, inevitably stolen from someone else
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (07/10/90)
In article <3449@crash.cts.com> seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu > > >While you're right about Commodore not being included in this list and in the >F500 because it's not a US based company, you're wrong about C= not being >profitable. > >At our last user group meeting, our guest speaker was the district educational >sales manager for Commodore, based in Dallas. He comes from NCR and turned >down IBM to work for Commodore! He stated that C= is a STRONG company, >stronger than most people think since they base success on how a company does >on Wall Street...success there is paper and nothing else. > Gunda, I guess this is the quote. Now I remember. Apparently you misunderstood. Commodore is currently reporting very low profits, only around $5 million versus about $45 million for the prior year. Commodore's sales are also down by almost $80 million/yr. However much of the reason for lower profits is that Commodore is investing far more money in development and marketing than they used to. This person may have said how strong Commodore is, but don't forget that he is an EMPLOYEE. I'm not saying that Commodore is on its way to bankruptcy. According to its numbers it has a good asset/liability ratio. However it may not be a very profitable company for 1-3 years. If by that time profitability isn't getting better it may never improve. Of course, we here (except Marc Barrett 8) envision a rosy future for the Amiga. >Sean >//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc | > ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil | " Fanatics have their > INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com | dreams, wherewith they > | weave a paradise for > RealWorld: Sean Cunningham | a sect. " > Voice: (512) 994-1602 PLINK: ce3k* | -Keats > | > Call C.B.A.U.G. BBS (512) 883-8351 w/SkyPix | B^) VISION GRAPHICS B^) >\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -- Ethan Ethan Solomita: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu "If Commodore had to market sushi they'd call it `raw cold fish'" -- The Bandito, inevitably stolen from someone else
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (07/12/90)
In-Reply-To: message from es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu Ok, I see your point... He said nothing about profits, just that they were something like a billion dollar strong company. And you're right about my outlook...with the success of the A3000, the impending success of CDTV, and the growing awareness of the Amiga in general, I see alot of good things happening. But, there are still some things that would make things easier, like CMOS coprocessors that can handle more colors, and 16bit sound. They've got the OS cleaned up and professional looking...it'd be nice if some SERIOUS applications were either ported or created...you know, like 1-2-3, WINGZ, Mathmatica, FrameMaker, and RenderMan. Sean //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc | ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil | " Fanatics have their INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com | dreams, wherewith they | weave a paradise for RealWorld: Sean Cunningham | a sect. " Voice: (512) 994-1602 PLINK: ce3k* | -Keats | Call C.B.A.U.G. BBS (512) 883-8351 w/SkyPix | B^) VISION GRAPHICS B^) \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (07/12/90)
In article <3473@crash.cts.com> seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) writes: >But, there are still some things that would make things easier, like CMOS >coprocessors that can handle more colors, and 16bit sound. They've got the OS Harry Copperman has stated on many occasions that they are working on methods to improve colors/resolution that aren't just patches on top of the current system. It didn't sound like the UofL board was what he was referring to. > >//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc | > ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil | " Fanatics have their > INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com | dreams, wherewith they > | weave a paradise for > RealWorld: Sean Cunningham | a sect. " > Voice: (512) 994-1602 PLINK: ce3k* | -Keats > | > Call C.B.A.U.G. BBS (512) 883-8351 w/SkyPix | B^) VISION GRAPHICS B^) >\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -- Ethan Ethan Solomita: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu "If Commodore had to market sushi they'd call it `raw cold fish'" -- The Bandito, inevitably stolen from someone else
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (07/14/90)
In-Reply-To: message from es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu Since Dave Haynie said, in his conference on the A3000 (plink), that any coprocessor upgrades would be on a card, I got to wondering... The only part of the A3000's motherboard that isn't 32bit is the little section that's got the original chips on it...I wonder if it can be turned off, either by hardware or through software so that the new chips on a card could take over their functions??? Sean //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc | ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil | " Fanatics have their INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com | dreams, wherewith they | weave a paradise for RealWorld: Sean Cunningham | a sect. " Voice: (512) 994-1602 PLINK: ce3k* | -Keats | Call C.B.A.U.G. BBS (512) 883-8351 w/SkyPix | B^) VISION GRAPHICS B^) \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\